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{{infobox live show
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | The Smashing Pumpkins
| artist = Billy Corgan
|-
| date = August 30, 2014
! align="left" | Date
| venue = [[w:Ravinia Pavilion|Ravinia Pavilion]]
| 2008-03-28
| location = Highland Park, IL, US
|-
| venue_type = Amphitheater
! align="left" | Venue
| lat = 42.15805556
| Metro Theatre
| lng = -87.77694444
|-
| capacity = 3400
! align="left" | Location
| lineup = Billy Corgan, Jeff Schroeder, Matt Walker, Sierra Swan, Amalie Bruun, Brian Harding, Jesse Andersen, Resistance Pro wrestlers
| Sydney, NSW, AU
| bands = Katie Cole, Billy Corgan
|-
| tour =
! align="left" | Venue Type
| poster = Bc2014-08-30-postersig.jpg
| Club
| notes = [[Billy Corgan]]'s first true solo show; many guests, precursor to [[In Plainsong tour]]
|-
}}
! align="left" | Capacity
 
| 1500
{{youtube|X8qSHmEsby4|Full performance, except "Chicago", "My Poor Troubled Heart" and "Stand Inside Your Love"}}
|-
 
! align="left" | Lineup
What was promoted as [[Billy Corgan]]'s first true solo show ended up being sort of a preview for the forthcoming [[In Plainsong tour|In Plainsong tours]].  The show featured notable guest appearances by [[Matt Walker]], [[Sierra Swan]] and Ex Cops ([[w:Amalie_Bruun|Amalie Bruun]] & Brian Harding). Another highlight was the only performance of what Billy would later refer to as the ''[[Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness]]'' Suite, a stretch of eight songs in a row drawn from the recording sessions for that album.
| Corgan, Chamberlin, Schroeder, Reyes, Harriton
 
|-
! align="left" | Order of Bands
| Hot Hot Heat, CSS, Duran Duran, The Smashing Pumpkins
|-
! align="left" | Notes
| MTV's Virgin Festival TV special.
|-
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Surfaced Recordings
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | TV #1
|-
! align="left" | Source
| TV
|-
! align="left" | Format
| WAV
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| UEC DCN1000(RCA out)>RCA to 1/8" cable>R-09
|-
! align="left" | Length
| 14m
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
|-
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| Master WAVs>FLAC
|-
! align="left" | Live Music Archive
| [http://www.archive.org/details/tsp2008-03-28.flac16 16-bit download]<br>[http://www.archive.org/details/tsp2008-03-28.flac24 24-bit download]
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | PRO #1
|-
! align="left" | Source
| TV
|-
! align="left" | Format
| DVD
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| UEC DCN1000(RCA out)>Winfast PVR2000
|-
! align="left" | Length
| 14m
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
|-
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| DVD-M
|-
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Unsurfaced Recordings
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | -
|}
== Setlist ==
== Setlist ==
----
=== Pre-set ===
Set:
# {{live song|The Killing Moon|acoustic=1|cover=[[w:Echo & the Bunnymen|Echo & the Bunnymen]]}}
* That's the Way (My Love Is)
# {{live song|Purr Snickety|acoustic=1}}
* The Rose March
# {{live song|Owata|acoustic=1}}
* Lips Like Sugar [Echo and the Bunnymen]
 
=== Resistance Pro rehearsal ===
# {{live song|Of a Broken Heart|acoustic=1}}
 
=== Set ===
# {{live song|Chicago|piano=1}}
# {{live song|Today|acoustic=1}}
# {{live song|Disarm|acoustic=1}}
# {{live song|Lonely Is the Name|acoustic=1}}
# {{live song|My Poor Troubled Heart|acoustic=1}}
# {{live song|For Your Love (song)|title=For Your Love|acoustic=1}}
# {{live song|The Rose March|acoustic=1}}
# {{live song|Perfect|acoustic=1}}
# {{live song|Let Me Give the World to You|acoustic=1}}
# {{live song|Prairie Song}}
# {{live song|Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (song)|title=Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness|piano=1}}
# {{live song|To Forgive|piano=1}}
# {{live song|Muzzle|acoustic=1}}
# {{live song|Tonight, Tonight|acoustic=1}}
# {{live song|Galapogos|acoustic=1}}
# {{live song|Methusela|acoustic=1}}
# {{live song|Thirty-Three|acoustic=1}}
# {{live song|1979|acoustic=1}}
# {{live song|Now (And Then)}}
# {{live song|The Beginning Is the End Is the Beginning}}
# {{live song|The Crying Tree of Mercury}}
# {{live song|Ava Adore}}
# {{live song|Pinwheels|acoustic=1}}
# {{live song|Stand Inside Your Love|acoustic=1}}
# {{live song|Which Way You Goin' Billy?|cover=[[w:The Poppy Family|The Poppy Family]]}}
# {{live song|Burnt Orange Black}}
 
=== Encore ===
# <li value=27>{{live song|The World's Fair}}</li>
# {{live song|Of a Broken Heart|acoustic=1}}
 
== Notes ==
 
* Pre-set: limited admission pre-show "Applause for Paws Backstage VIP Experience", 3 songs + Q&A recorded for Resistance Pro Unscripted TV Series
* "The Killing Moon": Billy/[[Jeff Schroeder]] acoustic
* "Purr Snickety": Billy/Jeff acoustic; first performance since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 1991-07-21|1991-07-21]]
* "Owata": Billy/Jeff acoustic; first performance since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2011-11-15|2011-11-15]]
* "Chicago": Billy solo; first performance on piano; last performance until [[Billy Corgan 2017-10-25|2017-10-25]]
* "Today": Billy solo acoustic
* "Disarm": Billy solo acoustic
* "Lonely Is the Name": Billy solo acoustic; first performance since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2010-11-27|2010-11-27]]
* "My Poor Troubled Heart": Billy solo acoustic
* "For Your Love": Billy/Jeff acoustic; first performance since [[Billy Corgan 2011-12-10|2011-12-10]]
* "The Rose March": Billy acoustic, Jeff electric; first performance since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2008-12-02|2008-12-02]]
* "Perfect": Billy/Jeff acoustic; first performance since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2010-09-04|2010-09-04]]
* "Let Me Give the World to You": Billy/Jeff acoustic; first performance since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2007-11-07|2007-11-07]] and last until [[Billy Corgan 2017-09-24|2017-09-24]]
* "Prairie Song": Billy/Jeff electric; first performance since [[Billy Corgan 2005-07-28|2005-07-28]]
* "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness": Billy on piano, Jeff on Mellotron; first performance since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2008-12-08|2008-12-08]]
* "To Forgive": Billy on piano, Jeff on Mellotron; first performance since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 1997-02-02|1997-02-02]] and last until [[Billy Corgan 2017-01-23|2017-01-23]]; first performance on piano
* "Muzzle": Billy on piano, Jeff on acoustic; first performance since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2012-10-28|2012-10-28]] and last until [[Billy Corgan 2017-01-23|2017-01-23]]; first performance with Billy on piano
* "Galapogos": Billy/Jeff acoustic; first performance since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2008-12-08|2008-12-08]] and last until [[Billy Corgan 2017-01-23|2017-01-23]]
* "Methusela": Billy/Jeff acoustic; played to backing track
* "Thirty-three": Billy/Jeff acoustic; last performance until [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2016-03-22|2016-03-22]]
* "Now (And Then)": Billy doesn't play an instrument, Jeff electric; played to backing track; first performance since [[Billy Corgan 2005-08-05|2005-08-05]]; Billy doesn't play an instrument; played to backing track
* "The Beginning Is the End Is the Beginning": Billy doesn't play an instrument, Jeff electric; played to backing track; first performance since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2012-06-29|2012-06-29]] and last until [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2018-07-12|2018-07-12]]
* "The Crying Tree of Mercury": Billy doesn't play an instrument, Jeff electric; played to backing track; first performance since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2007-10-16|2007-10-16]]
* "Ava Adore": Billy doesn't play an instrument, Jeff electric, [[Matt Walker]] on drums
* "Pinwheels": Billy acoustic, Jeff electric, [[Sierra Swan]] & Ex Cops on vocals
* "Stand Inside Your Love": Billy/Jeff acoustic, [[Sierra Swan]] & Ex Cops on vocals
* "Which Way You Goin' Billy?": Billy/Jeff electric, [[w:Amalie Bruun|Amalie Bruun]] on lead vocals, Matt Walker on drums, Sierra Swan on bass, Brian Harding on backing vocals
* "Burnt Orange-Black": Billy/Jeff electric, Matt Walker on drums, Sierra Swan & Ex Cops on vocals
* "The World's Fair": Billy/Jeff electric, Matt Walker on drums; first performance since [[Billy Corgan 2004-10-17|2004-10-17]] and last until [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2016-03-22|2016-03-22]]; synth version
* "Of a Broken Heart": Billy acoustic, Jeff electric, Matt Walker on drums, all previous guests & Resistance Pro wrestlers and staff & and Jesse Andersen (Billy's half brother) on vocals; first performance since [[Billy Corgan 2005-07-28|2005-07-28]]


== Banter ==
== Banter ==
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'''Chicago''' (Billy solo piano)
BC: Alright.
'''Today''' (Billy solo acoustic)
'''Disarm''' (Billy solo acoustic)
BC: Thank you.  Thank you, that’s very kind, thank you.  So, I go right back to my rock move, I wanna do that.
'''Lonely is the Name''' (Billy solo acoustic)
> '''My Poor Troubled Heart''' (Billy solo acoustic)
BC: Like to take you back now to the Djali Zwan days.
'''For Your Love'''
BC: Love is an overused word.
'''The Rose March'''
BC: My special night.  As if this season wasn’t bad enough, you know?  I don’t think, I know you’re not a baseball fan - Jeff’s a hockey guy.  His team, the [[w:Los Angeles Kings|L.A. Kings]].  ''(crowd boos)''  I know you don’t follow baseball but I’m pretty sure the [[w:Chicago Cubs|Cubs]] haven’t won one game, it’s like they’re zero and a hundred or something, it’s unbelievable.  Never happened before.  Well, in the era of bad showbiz transitions, I wrote an album around 1997-98 about my mother, uh, Martha.  And a few other, uh, losses.  Heh heh.  That was the big one but, um, so we’ll, we’ll just dedicate this song to mourning.  To the [[w:Chicago Blackhawks|Blackhawks]] who lost to your Kings.
'''Perfect'''
'''Let Me Give the World to You'''
'''Prairie Song'''
BC: Okay.  There goes the [[w:Chicago White Sox|White Sox]] fan again.
'''Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness'''
'''To Forgive'''
'''Muzzle'''
'''Tonight, Tonight'''
BC: Thank you.
'''Galapogos'''
BC: Whoo! ...  Thank you, that’s so nice, thank you.  Thank you, wow, thank you.  Heh heh.  No, we really, we thank you, thank you so much, thank you.  See, the whole time you’re clapping, I’m thinking “They haven’t heard the second half of the show yet,” heh heh.  Will they still be clapping at the...?  ''(somebody in crowd yells something)''  What would you like?  Well, there you go.  Heh heh heh.  Just having our own fun up here.  Got a few more Mellon Collie songs for you.  And we’d like to debut a song now that’s never been played live.  And the story on this song is that I wrote it, um, I wrote a lot of songs in that period, I think I wrote something like fifty...seven or something, just crazy.  I lived in the purple Victorian house and, uh, yeah, heh heh.  I’ll stop - once I start talking, it’s hard to stop me.  Um, anyway.  So, as you do, you get up in the morning, you write a song, whatever, go back to bed like a good rock star and, uh, I played every song that I did, uh, for the producers of that album, [[Flood]] and [[Alan Moulder]], except for this song, which is very strange because, uh, they’re my friends and I’m very close to them.  And it recently came out on the, uh, plug, Mellon Collie box set and, heh heh....  Thank you.  Now if you do a standing ovation for the box set, now that’ll be something.  Ha ha ha.  ''(crowd cheers)''  Oh no, stop, we just don’t have time.  Anyway, heh, sorry, is it sticky up here?  I don’t know.  Uh, heh, so the song is called Methusela and it was written about my father, [[William Corgan Sr.|Bill Senior]], as we like to call him around here.  And, uh, I wasn’t talking to Bill Senior at the time and it was, it’s, it’s that one step over the line of being personal and so I never played it for anybody.  And then, um, so that was why it never was recorded, it was never even further demoed out by the band, the band never heard it and so, uh, here it is all these years later.  So we’d like to play it for you tonight for the first time.
'''Methusela'''
BC: That’s it.  I expected more singing along, to be honest.
'''Thirty-Three'''
'''1979'''
'''Now and Then'''
> '''The Beginning is the End is the Beginning'''
'''The Crying Tree of Mercury'''
'''Ava Adore''' (with Matt Walker)
BC: Thank you!
'''Pinwheels''' (with Sierra Swan & Ex-Cops)
'''Stand Inside Your Love''' (with Sierra Swan & Ex-Cops)
BC: You okay for a few more?  Chi-town in the house.  A quick introduction to my compatriots: on the drums, Mr. Matt Walker.  On the guitar, Mr. Jeff Schroeder.  Tearin’ it up.  From the Ex-Cops, Ms. Amalie Bruun, Mr. Brian Harding, thank you for being here.  They got a new album coming out that I worked with them on, so please check that out...plug.  And on the bass and the vocals, the chanteuse, Ms. Sierra Swan.
'''Which Way You Goin’ Billy?''' (with Matt Walker, Sierra Swan & Ex-Cops)
Amalie: Thank you.
BC: Well, we’ve reached the end.  Yes.  I’m partying all night long, I don’t know about you.  To everyone here, down here, everyone in the back, up on the lawn, thank you so much.  God bless you everyone.  We hope you’ve had a good time.  Alright!  That’s an encouraging shout.  So we’d like to leave you with this last song, it’s a newer song, uh, but it’s not on the new album, yes.  A treat.  A tasty pre-Halloween treat.  This is called Burnt Orange-Black.
'''Burnt Orange-Black''' (with Matt Walker, Sierra Swan & Ex-Cops)
BC: Thank you!
[encore break]
'''The World’s Fair''' (with Matt Walker)
BC: Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the real end.  Like to bring out my brothers and sisters from the [[w:Resistance Pro Wrestling|Resistance Pro Wrestling]] promotion.  And Ms. Sierra Swan, Amalie Bruun, Brian Harding.  Yes, you are the way.  Colonel Jesse?  Say hi to my brother.  Wanna say hi to everybody?
Jesse Andersen: What’s up, Ravinia?  Doesn’t that [unintelligible] rock or what?
BC: He’s had a few.
Jesse: I stuttered, dude.
BC: Ha ha ha.  Alright, we’d like to end with the song Of a Broken Heart.  ''(small cheer)''  That’s it?  That’s all you’ve got?  ''(bigger cheer)''
'''Of a Broken Heart''' (with Matt Walker, Jesse Andersen, Ex-Cops & Resistance Pro wrestlers)
BC: Alright.
[bow]
BC: And hey!  We’re a local promotion, come check us out, September 12th in Chicago.  Support your local promotions, we’re all homegrown here from Chicago.  Except you.  Where you from?  Parts unknown.  Goodnight everybody, thank you.
}}
 
== Photos and memorabilia ==
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