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{{infobox live show
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | The Smashing Pumpkins
| artist = The Smashing Pumpkins
|-
| date = December 16, 1996
! align="left" | Date
| venue = [[SAP Center|San Jose Arena]]
| 1996-12-16
| lineup = Billy Corgan, James Iha, D'arcy Wretzky, Matt Walker, Dennis Flemion
|-
| bands = Garbage, The Smashing Pumpkins
! align="left" | Venue
| tour = Infinite Sadness
| San Jose Arena
| poster = 961214-16poster1.jpg
|-
}}
! align="left" | Location
 
| San Jose, CA, US
Rescheduled from August 18, 1996 due to the death of [[Jonathan Melvoin]].
|-
 
! align="left" | Venue Type
{{full live video|Eevm4NwUyFM}}
| Arena
 
|-
! align="left" | Capacity
| 14,000
|-
! align="left" | Lineup
| Corgan, Iha, Wretzky, Walker, Flemion
|-
! align="left" | Order of Bands
| Garbage, The Smashing Pumpkins
|-
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Surfaced Recordings
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | FM #1
|-
! align="left" | Source
| FM
|-
! align="left" | Format
| DAT
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| ALD
|-
! align="left" | Length
| 139m
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
|-
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| DAT-M > CDR
|-
! align="left" | Notes
| Static during middle 15 minutes of Silverfuck.
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AMT #1a
|-
! align="left" | Source
| AUD
|-
! align="left" | Format
| Hi8
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| Unknown
|-
! align="left" | Length
| 8m
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
| No
|-
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| Hi8 > VHS-? > DVD
|-
! align="left" | Notes
| Drown and a clip of Silverfuck.  Shot from left front balcony.  Circulates on Vieuphoria 2 fan compilation.
|-
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Unsurfaced Recordings
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AMT #1
|-
! align="left" | Source
| AUD
|-
! align="left" | Format
| Hi8
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| Unknown
|-
! align="left" | Length
| 144m
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
|-
! align="left" | Notes
| Shot from left front balcony, wobbly.
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | SBD #1
|-
! align="left" | Source
| SBD
|-
! align="left" | Format
| ADAT
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| Unknown
|-
! align="left" | Length
| ~140m
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
|-
! align="left" | Notes
| Vault copy.
|-
|}
== Setlist ==
== Setlist ==
----
# {{live song|Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (song)|title=Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness|prerecorded=1}}
Set:
# {{live song|Where Boys Fear to Tread}}
* Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (over PA)
# {{live song|Zero}}
* Where Boys Fear to Tread
# {{live song|Fuck You}}
* Zero
# {{live song|By Starlight}}
* Fuck You
# {{live song|Tonight, Tonight}}
* By Starlight
# {{live song|Today}}
* Tonight, Tonight
# {{live song|Cherub Rock}}
* Today
# {{live song|Thru the Eyes of Ruby}}
* Cherub Rock
# {{live song|Drown|length=5:44}}
* Thru the Eyes of Ruby
## {{live song|Hummer|tease=1}}
* Drown [5:44]
# {{live song|Thirty-Three|acoustic=1}}
** Hummer (tease)
# {{live song|Take Me Down|tease=1|note=first verse|acoustic=1}}
* Thirty-three
# {{live song|Disarm|acoustic=1}}
* Take Me Down (one verse)
# {{live song|Bullet with Butterfly Wings}}
* Disarm
# {{live song|Farewell and Goodnight|tease=1}}
* Bullet with Butterfly Wings
# {{live song|Muzzle}}
* Farewell and Goodnight (tease)
* Muzzle
Encore One:
* Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
** Rocket (tease)
Encore Two:
* Blissed and Gone (tease)
* X.Y.U.
Encore Three:
* The Aeroplane Flies High
* Silverfuck [31:35]
** Dose [Filter] (tease)


=== Notes ===
=== Encore one ===
* Rescheduled from 1996-08-18
# <li value=17>{{live song|Porcelina of the Vast Oceans}}</li>
* Thirty-three, Take Me Down, and Disarm performed acoustic
## {{live song|Rocket|tease=1}}
 
=== Encore two ===
# <li value=18>{{live song|Blissed and Gone|tease=1}}</li>
# {{live song|X.Y.U.}}
 
=== Encore three ===
# <li value=20>{{live song|The Aeroplane Flies High (Turns Left, Looks Right)}}</li>
# {{live song|Silverfuck|length=31:35}}
## {{live song|Dose|tease=1|cover=[[w:Filter (band)|Filter]]}}
 
== Notes ==
* Final performance of "Take Me Down" at any length


== Banter ==
== Banter ==
<blockquote>
<b>Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness</b> (on PA)<br>
<b>Where Boys Fear to Tread</b><br>
<b>Zero</b><br>
<b>Fuck You</b><br>
Corgan: Good evening.  Thank you very much.<br>
<b>By Starlight</b><br>
<b>Tonight, Tonight</b><br>
Iha: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, good evening.  How are you?  We're glad you can all rock out with us tonight.  We'd just like to invoke some safety tonight, please don't crush the people in the front and don't step on anybody... because today is a heck of a day.<br>
Corgan: Yes.  Now we only have one, one, one thing to ask you.  That is, please do not throw objects at the stage.  If you throw objects at the stage, we will not play.  If you want to be the one who stops the concert because you must throw your shoe at me, then let everyone around you hate you.<br>
Iha: Because today could be such a nice day.<br>
Corgan: Yeah.  And the guy in the back pointing the gun at the side of my head, go fuck yourself cause I'm sick of that shit. Do not make me come out there and kill you myself.<br>
Iha: We have resorted to these tactics.<br>
Corgan: That's it, enjoy the show.  Do not throw objects at the Smashing Pumpkins!  Or you may find we aren't so smashing.<br>
<b>Today</b><br>
<b>Cherub Rock</b><br>
<b>Thru the Eyes of Ruby</b><br>
Corgan: Thank you<br>
<b>Drown</b><br>
Corgan: Thanks a lot<br>
<b>Hummer</b> (tease)<br>
Corgan: We'd like to play our new single.  This is Thirty-three<br>
<b>Thirty-three</b><br>
<b>Take Me Down</b> (about 1m long, acoustic)<br>
<b>Disarm</b> (acoustic)<br>
<b>Bullet with Butterfly Wings</b><br>
Corgan: Thank you very much to your response to our hit song.<br>
Iha yells (jokingly) with crowd then says: So what do you guys want to hear? Do you want to hear Bush, No Doubt or something? We aim to please. What do you want to hear? Rock and roll.<br>
Corgan: Hasn't anyone told you (smirking), that rock and roll is dead?<br>
Iha: Oh my God! You heard it here on this stage first, rock and roll is dead.<br>
Corgan: We're very happy to have help killed it.  Now that the ship is about to go under, we're about to jump over like some African rats. Find another ship.<br>
Iha: Yes.  We're going to another land after this tour. We're going to the other side of the moon--where they found that water.<br>
Corgan: Thank you for your support. Just remember, the boos sound just like cheers to us.<br>
Crowd boos, to which Corgan responds: Ah, come on, have a sense of humour.<br>
Corgan can't stop laughing as the band breaks into...<br>
<b>Farewell and Goodnight</b> (about 30s long, electric)<br>
<b>Muzzle</b><br>
Corgan: Thank you, thank you.<br>
Brief encore break.<br>
<b>Porcelina of the Vast Oceans</b><br>
<b>Rocket</b> (teased for about 45s)<br>
<b>Thirty-three</b><br>
3m encore break.<br>
Iha: I'm sorry, I just lost my mind for a second.  How is everybody?  Are you still with us? Southern California, are you still with us? Yes? Rocking!<br>
Corgan: James, we're not in Southern California<br>
Iha: Oh! Detroit, put your... Alright, Nevada!<br>
Corgan: Most people don't know this, but he is a robot.  He's not a real human being. Hence his mistake, it's a programming error.  It's not a...you can't hold him accountable for everything.<br>
Iha: Yea.<br>
Corgan: That's why he smells so bad, cause you can't even put him in the shower.<br>
Iha: Yea. I'm sorry.<br>
Corgan: As you can tell, at night, the batteries are low.<br>
Iha: I can only offer up a cliche apology.<br>
Corgan: Please do.<br>
Iha: How about this, how about I rock you on this next song as an apology<br>
<b>Blissed and Gone</b> (about 1m tease, with James interrupting intermittently)<br>
Corgan: Alright, cover your ears. Young ones. We're about to hurt you.<br>
<b>X.Y.U.</b><br>
3.5m encore break.<br>
<b>The Aeroplane Flies High</b><br>
<b>Silverfuck</b><br>
</blockquote>


== Photos & Memorabilia ==
{{banter|1=
[[Image:19961216stub.jpg|125px|left]]
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness Intro
[[Image:961214-16-17poster.jpg|125px|left]]
> '''Where Boys Fear to Tread'''
[[Image:961214-16poster1.jpg|125px|left]]
> '''Zero'''
[[Image:960818-Stub.jpg|125px|left]]
'''Fuck You'''
BC: Good evening.  Thank you very much.
'''By Starlight'''
“Thank you for participating” tape
> '''Tonight, Tonight'''
Iha: ''(weird voice)'' Good evening, good evening, ladies and gentlemen.  ''(normal)'' How are you?  We're glad you could all rock out with us tonight.  We just would like to invoke some safety, please don't crush any people up here in the front and don't step on anybody.  Because today is a heck of a day.
BC: Yes.  Now...we only have one, one, one thing to ask you.  That is please do not throw objects at the stage.  If you throw objects at the stage, we will not play.  If you want to be the one who stops the concert because you must throw your shoe at me, then let everyone around you hate you.
Iha: ...beat you up.  Because today could be such a nice day.  Let’s have one of those.
BC: Yeah, and uh, to the guy in the back pointing the gun sight at my head, go fuck yourself ‘cause I'm sick of that shit.  Do not make me come out there and kill you myself.
Iha: Heh heh heh.  We have resorted to these tactics before.
BC: That's it, have a good time, enjoy the show.  ''Do not'' throw objects at the Smashing Pumpkins!  Or you may found--you may find that, heh, we aren't so smashing.
'''Today'''
'''Cherub Rock'''
> Planet of the Apes clip
> '''Thru the Eyes of Ruby'''
BC: Thank you.
'''Drown'''
> '''Hummer''' (tease)
BC: Thanks a lot.  Like to play our new single, this is called Thirty-three.
'''Thirty-three''' (acoustic)
'''Take Me Down''' (acoustic, verse 1 only)
> '''Disarm''' (acoustic)
Circus tape
> '''Bullet with Butterfly Wings'''
BC: Thank you very much for your response to our hit song.
Iha: ''(screams)''  ...  So what do you guys want to hear?  Do you want to hear [[w:Bush (British band)|Bush]]?  Heh. Do you wanna hear [[w:No Doubt|No Doubt]] or something?  We aim to please. What do you want to hear?  Rock and roll.
BC: Hasn't anyone told you that rock and roll is ''(laughing)'' dead?
Iha: Oh my god.  You heard it here on the stage first: rock and roll is dead.
BC: We're very happy to have help killed it.  And uh...now just when the ship’s about to go under, we're about to jump off like some African rats and just find another ship.
Iha: Yes.  We're going to another land after this tour.  We're going to the other side of the moon where that, uh--they found that water.
BC: Thank you for your support.  Just remember, the boos sound just like cheers to us.
''(crowd boos)''
Iha: Yes.
BC: Ah, come on, have a sense of humor.
'''Farewell and Goodnight''' (partial, mostly Iha solo)
> '''Muzzle'''
BC: Thank you, thank you.
[encore break]
BC: Thank you.  Put your space helmets on.
'''Porcelina of the Vast Oceans'''
> '''Rocket''' (tease)
BC: Thank you.
[encore break]
Iha: ''(howls)''  Heh.  I'm sorry, I just lost my mind for a second there.  How is everybody?  Good?  Are you still with us?  Southern California, are you still with us?  Yes?  Rockin’.  Ooh, ho ho, you guys....
BC: James, we're not in ''(laughing)'' Southern California.
Iha: Oh!  Detroit!  Put your ''(trails off laughing)''....  Alright, uh, Nevada.
BC: Most people don't know this but he is a robot.  He's not a real human being, hence his mistake, it's a program area.  It's not a uh...you can't hold him accountable for anything.
Iha: Yeah.
BC: That's why he smells so bad, ‘cause you can't even put him in the shower.
Iha: Yeah.  I'm sorry.
BC: And as you can tell tonight, his batteries are low.
Iha: I can only offer up a complete rock and roll cliche apology.
BC: Yes, please boo.
Iha: How about this, how about I rock you on this next song as an apology?
'''Blissed and Gone''' (tease - basically one verse + chorus with interruptions from Iha)
BC: ''(singing)'' The sun has gone / The rays have left / All the kids have left their ears and gone home
Iha: Ooh.
BC: ''(singing)'' Sweet 17
Iha: Yeah.
BC: ''(singing)'' Sour 29
Iha: Know where you’ve been.
BC: ''(singing)'' And I can’t explain myself what I hoped to find / You’re all so kind without her here
Iha: Been there, done that.
BC: ''(singing)'' Baby I need you around / Baby I need you around
Iha: Come on!
BC: ''(singing)'' Maybe I need you / Maybe I need you for myself / Baby I need you around....  ''(speaking)'' Alright!  Cover your ears...young ones.  We're about to hurt you.
'''X.Y.U.'''
[encore break]
Iha: Thanks, thanks a lot, you guys have been great.  We will now travel off into outer space.  Thanks for everyone or thanks--thanks ''to'' everyone.  I gotta go back to college one of these days and uh, I’ll see you on the other side of the moon.
'''The Aeroplane Flies High'''
> '''Silverfuck / Dose'''
BC: Thanks for stickin’ around, thanks a lot.
}}
 
== Photos and memorabilia ==
{{live show gallery|
19961216stub.jpg
961214-16-17poster.jpg
960818-Stub.jpg
}}

Latest revision as of 18:17, 31 March 2023

December 16, 1996 – San Jose, CA, US
Live performance by The Smashing Pumpkins
Infinite Sadness tour
DateDecember 16, 1996
VenueSan Jose Arena
Coordinates37°19′58″N 121°54′4″W
LocationSan Jose, CA, US
Venue typeArena
Capacity19,190
PersonnelBilly Corgan, James Iha, D'arcy Wretzky, Matt Walker, Dennis Flemion
Order of bandsGarbage, The Smashing Pumpkins

Rescheduled from August 18, 1996 due to the death of Jonathan Melvoin.

Full performance

Setlist[edit | edit source]

  1. "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness" (prerecorded) 
  2. "Where Boys Fear to Tread
  3. "Zero
  4. "Fuck You
  5. "By Starlight
  6. "Tonight, Tonight
  7. "Today
  8. "Cherub Rock
  9. "Thru the Eyes of Ruby
  10. "Drown" [5:44] 
    1. "Hummer(tease) 
  11. "Thirty-Three(acoustic) 
  12. "Take Me Down(tease) (acoustic) (first verse) 
  13. "Disarm(acoustic) 
  14. "Bullet with Butterfly Wings
  15. "Farewell and Goodnight(tease) 
  16. "Muzzle

Encore one[edit | edit source]

  1. "Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
    1. "Rocket(tease) 

Encore two[edit | edit source]

  1. "Blissed and Gone(tease) 
  2. "X.Y.U.

Encore three[edit | edit source]

  1. "The Aeroplane Flies High (Turns Left, Looks Right)
  2. "Silverfuck" [31:35] 
    1. "Dose" [Filter(tease) 

Notes[edit | edit source]

  • Final performance of "Take Me Down" at any length

Banter[edit | edit source]

Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness Intro
> Where Boys Fear to Tread
> Zero
Fuck You
BC: Good evening. Thank you very much.
By Starlight
“Thank you for participating” tape
> Tonight, Tonight
Iha: (weird voice) Good evening, good evening, ladies and gentlemen. (normal) How are you? We're glad you could all rock out with us tonight. We just would like to invoke some safety, please don't crush any people up here in the front and don't step on anybody. Because today is a heck of a day.
BC: Yes. Now...we only have one, one, one thing to ask you. That is please do not throw objects at the stage. If you throw objects at the stage, we will not play. If you want to be the one who stops the concert because you must throw your shoe at me, then let everyone around you hate you.
Iha: ...beat you up. Because today could be such a nice day. Let’s have one of those.
BC: Yeah, and uh, to the guy in the back pointing the gun sight at my head, go fuck yourself ‘cause I'm sick of that shit. Do not make me come out there and kill you myself.
Iha: Heh heh heh. We have resorted to these tactics before.
BC: That's it, have a good time, enjoy the show. Do not throw objects at the Smashing Pumpkins! Or you may found--you may find that, heh, we aren't so smashing.
Today
Cherub Rock
> Planet of the Apes clip
> Thru the Eyes of Ruby
BC: Thank you.
Drown
> Hummer (tease)
BC: Thanks a lot. Like to play our new single, this is called Thirty-three.
Thirty-three (acoustic)
Take Me Down (acoustic, verse 1 only)
> Disarm (acoustic)
Circus tape
> Bullet with Butterfly Wings
BC: Thank you very much for your response to our hit song.
Iha: (screams) ... So what do you guys want to hear? Do you want to hear Bush? Heh. Do you wanna hear No Doubt or something? We aim to please. What do you want to hear? Rock and roll.
BC: Hasn't anyone told you that rock and roll is (laughing) dead?
Iha: Oh my god. You heard it here on the stage first: rock and roll is dead.
BC: We're very happy to have help killed it. And uh...now just when the ship’s about to go under, we're about to jump off like some African rats and just find another ship.
Iha: Yes. We're going to another land after this tour. We're going to the other side of the moon where that, uh--they found that water.
BC: Thank you for your support. Just remember, the boos sound just like cheers to us.
(crowd boos)
Iha: Yes.
BC: Ah, come on, have a sense of humor.
Farewell and Goodnight (partial, mostly Iha solo)
> Muzzle
BC: Thank you, thank you.
[encore break]
BC: Thank you. Put your space helmets on.
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
> Rocket (tease)
BC: Thank you.
[encore break]
Iha: (howls) Heh. I'm sorry, I just lost my mind for a second there. How is everybody? Good? Are you still with us? Southern California, are you still with us? Yes? Rockin’. Ooh, ho ho, you guys....
BC: James, we're not in (laughing) Southern California.
Iha: Oh! Detroit! Put your (trails off laughing).... Alright, uh, Nevada.
BC: Most people don't know this but he is a robot. He's not a real human being, hence his mistake, it's a program area. It's not a uh...you can't hold him accountable for anything.
Iha: Yeah.
BC: That's why he smells so bad, ‘cause you can't even put him in the shower.
Iha: Yeah. I'm sorry.
BC: And as you can tell tonight, his batteries are low.
Iha: I can only offer up a complete rock and roll cliche apology.
BC: Yes, please boo.
Iha: How about this, how about I rock you on this next song as an apology?
Blissed and Gone (tease - basically one verse + chorus with interruptions from Iha)
BC: (singing) The sun has gone / The rays have left / All the kids have left their ears and gone home
Iha: Ooh.
BC: (singing) Sweet 17
Iha: Yeah.
BC: (singing) Sour 29
Iha: Know where you’ve been.
BC: (singing) And I can’t explain myself what I hoped to find / You’re all so kind without her here
Iha: Been there, done that.
BC: (singing) Baby I need you around / Baby I need you around
Iha: Come on!
BC: (singing) Maybe I need you / Maybe I need you for myself / Baby I need you around.... (speaking) Alright! Cover your ears...young ones. We're about to hurt you.
X.Y.U.
[encore break]
Iha: Thanks, thanks a lot, you guys have been great. We will now travel off into outer space. Thanks for everyone or thanks--thanks to everyone. I gotta go back to college one of these days and uh, I’ll see you on the other side of the moon.
The Aeroplane Flies High
> Silverfuck / Dose
BC: Thanks for stickin’ around, thanks a lot.

Photos and memorabilia[edit | edit source]