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{{infobox live show
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | The Smashing Pumpkins
| artist = The Smashing Pumpkins
|-
| date = November 4, 2008
! align="left" | Date
| venue = [[w:Massey Hall|Massey Hall]]
| 2008-11-04
| location = Toronto, ON, CA
|-
| venue_type = Concert Hall
! align="left" | Venue
| lat = 43.65416667
| Massey Hall
| lng = -79.37902778
|-
| capacity = 2800
! align="left" | Location
| lineup = Corgan, Chamberlin, Schroeder, Reyes, Harriton, Pooley, Shankar, Bradley, McNair
| Toronto, ON, CA
| bands = The Smashing Pumpkins
|-
| tour = 20th Anniversary
! align="left" | Venue Type
}}
| Concert Hall
|-
! align="left" | Capacity
| 2800
|-
! align="left" | Lineup
| Corgan, Chamberlin, Schroeder, Reyes, Harriton, Pooley, Shankar, Bradley, McNair
|-
! align="left" | Order of Bands
| The Smashing Pumpkins
|-
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Surfaced Recordings
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | SBD #1
|-
! align="left" | Source
| SBD
|-
! align="left" | Format
| FLAC
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| Unknown
|-
! align="left" | Length
| 154m
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
|-
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| FLAC-M
|-
! align="left" | Notes
| Some track marks and track titles are incorrect.
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | SBD #2
|-
! align="left" | Source
| SBD
|-
! align="left" | Format
| FLAC
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| Unknown
|-
! align="left" | Length
| 154m
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
|-
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| FLAC-M
|-
! align="left" | Official Bootleg
| [http://www.livedownloads.com/live-music/0,3011/Smashing-Pumpkins-mp3-flac-download-11-4-2008-Massey-Hall-Toronto-ON.html livedownloads.com]


|-
! align="left" | Notes
| An updated version with corrected track marks and track titles became available after the initial release.
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #1
|-
! align="left" | Source
| AUD
|-
! align="left" | Format
| WAV
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| built-in>R-09
|-
! align="left" | Length
| 161m
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
|-
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| WAV-M>FLAC
|-
! align="left" | Live Music Archive
| [http://www.archive.org/details/tsp2008-11-04.flac16 16-bit download]
|-
! align="left" | Notes
| Floor left/center, row M.
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #2
|-
! align="left" | Source
| AUD
|-
! align="left" | Format
| WAV
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| CA-11>BAT-2B>R-09(16/44.1)
|-
! align="left" | Length
| 160m
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
|-
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| WAV-M>FLAC
|-
! align="left" | Live Music Archive
| [http://www.archive.org/details/tsp2008-11-04.smashing0.flac16 16-bit download]
|-
! align="left" | Notes
| Row H.
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #3
|-
! align="left" | Source
| AUD
|-
! align="left" | Format
| ANA
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| built-in>TCM-353V
|-
! align="left" | Length
| 138m
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
|-
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| ANA-1>dEdit>FLAC
|-
! align="left" | Notes
| Tape flip during Gossamer. Speed problems during the second half of the show. Occasional sections in dual-mono. Crestfallen and I of the Mourning are unlistenable due to a bad tape.
|-
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Unsurfaced Recordings
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #4
|-
! align="left" | Source
| AUD
|-
! align="left" | Format
| DAT
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| SPPB>Battery Box>M1
|-
! align="left" | Length
| Unknown
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
| Unknown
|-
! align="left" | Notes
| Floor, row R (slightly under the balcony).
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AMT #1
|-
! align="left" | Source
| AUD
|-
! align="left" | Format
| MiniDV
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| Sony DCR HC28
|-
! align="left" | Length
| ~60m
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
| No
|-
! align="left" | Notes
| Ava Adore, Soma, A Song for a Son, Landslide, Galapogos, As Rome Burns, Age of Innocence, and possibly others.
|-
|}
== Setlist ==
== Setlist ==
----
 
Soundcheck One:
=== Soundcheck one ===
* That's the Way (My Love Is)
# {{live song|That's the Way (My Love Is)|soundcheck=1}}
* Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
# {{live song|Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (song)|title=Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness|soundcheck=1}}
* Gossamer
# {{live song|Gossamer|soundcheck=1}}
* Crestfallen
# {{live song|Crestfallen|soundcheck=1}}
* As Rome Burns
# {{live song|As Rome Burns|soundcheck=1}}
Soundcheck Two:
 
* Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
=== Soundcheck two ===
* Tonight, Tonight
# {{live song|Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (song)|title=Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness|soundcheck=1}}
* Soma
# {{live song|Tonight, Tonight|soundcheck=1}}
* I Am One Part 2
# {{live song|Soma|soundcheck=1}}
* As Rome Burns
# {{live song|I Am One Part II|soundcheck=1}}
* Ava Adore
# {{live song|As Rome Burns|soundcheck=1}}
* Cupid de Locke
# {{live song|Ava Adore|soundcheck=1}}
* 1979
# {{live song|Cupid de Locke|soundcheck=1}}
Set:
# {{live song|1979|soundcheck=1}}
* Ava Adore
 
* Cupid de Locke
=== Set ===
* 1979
# {{live song|Ava Adore}}
* 99 Floors
# {{live song|Cupid de Locke}}
* Owata
# {{live song|1979}}
* Sunkissed
# {{live song|99 Floors}}
* Soma
# {{live song|Owata}}
* Cherub Rock
# {{live song|Sunkissed}}
* Zero
# {{live song|Soma}}
* Bodies
# {{live song|Cherub Rock}}
* Crestfallen
# {{live song|Zero}}
* I of the Mourning
# {{live song|Bodies}}
* A Song for a Son
# {{live song|Crestfallen}}
* Landslide [Nicks]
# {{live song|I of the Mourning}}
* Disarm
# {{live song|A Song for a Son}}
* Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
# {{live song|Landslide|cover=[[w:Stevie Nicks|Stevie Nicks]]}}
* Galapogos
# {{live song|Disarm}}
* Gossamer [16:11]
# {{live song|Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (song)|title=Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness}}
* As Rome Burns
# {{live song|Galapogos}}
* The Sounds of Silence [Simon]
# {{live song|Gossamer|length=16:11}}
** Lil' Red Riding Hood [Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs]
# {{live song|As Rome Burns}}
* The March Hare (medley) [12:19]
# {{live song|The Sounds of Silence|cover=[[w:Paul Simon|Paul Simon]]}}
** Suffer (middle section only)
## {{live song|Li'l Red Riding Hood|cover=[[w:Sam the Sham|Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs]]}}
* Age of Innocence
# {{live song|The March Hare|length=12:19|note=medley}}
Encore:
## {{live song|Suffer|note=middle section only}}
* That's the Way (My Love Is)
# {{live song|Age of Innocence}}
* I Am One Part 2 [15:20]
 
=== Encore ===
# {{live song|That's the Way (My Love Is)}}
# {{live song|I Am One Part II|length=15:20}}


=== Notes ===
=== Notes ===
* Cupid de Locke, 99 Floors, Owata, Sunkissed, Landslide, Disarm, and That's the Way (My Love Is) performed acoustic
 
* First performance of Gossamer since 2007-07-31
* "Cupid de Locke", "99 Floors", "Owata", "Sunkissed", "Landslide", "Disarm", and "That's the Way (My Love Is)" performed acoustic
* First performance of I of the Mourning and Age of Innocence since 2000-12-02
* First performance of "Gossamer" since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2007-07-31|2007-07-31]]
* First performance of Soma since 1999-04-24
* First performance of "I of the Mourning" and "Age of Innocence" since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2000-12-02|2000-12-02]]
* First performance of Crestfallen since 1998-10-23
* First performance of "Soma" since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 1999-04-24|1999-04-24]]
* First performance of Bodies since 1997-07-09
* First performance of "Crestfallen" since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 1998-10-23|1998-10-23]]
* First performance of Galapogos since 1996-12-17
* First performance of "Bodies" since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 1997-07-09|1997-07-09]]
* First performance of Landslide since 1996-12-11
* First performance of "Galapogos" since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 1996-12-17|1996-12-17]]
* First performance of Cupid de Locke since 1996-05-15
* First performance of "Landslide" since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 1996-12-11|1996-12-11]]
* First performance of Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness since 1996-05-07
* First performance of "Cupid de Locke" since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 1996-05-15|1996-05-15]]
* First performance of I Am One Part 2 since 1989-09-08
* First performance of "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness" since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 1996-05-07|1996-05-07]]
* First performance of I Am One Part 2 since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 1989-09-08|1989-09-08]]


== Banter ==
== Banter ==
<blockquote>
 
2008 Intro<br>
{{banter|1=
'''Ava Adore'''<br>
2008 Intro
'''Cupid de Locke'''<br>
'''Ava Adore'''
'''1979'''<br>
'''Cupid de Locke'''
BC: Thank you. ...  Harmonica malfunction.<br>
'''1979'''
'''99 Floors''' (acoustic)<br>
BC: Thank you. ...  Harmonica malfunction.
'''Owata''' (acoustic)<br>
'''99 Floors''' (acoustic)
'''Sunkissed''' (acoustic)<br>
'''Owata''' (acoustic)
'''Soma'''<br>
'''Sunkissed''' (acoustic)
BC: Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, thank you!  Are you ready?  No, are you READY?  Alright.<br>
'''Soma'''
'''Cherub Rock'''<br>
BC: Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, thank you!  Are you ready?  No, are you READY?  Alright.
'''Zero'''<br>
'''Cherub Rock'''
> '''Bodies'''<br>
'''Zero'''
'''Crestfallen'''<br>
> '''Bodies'''
'''I of the Mourning'''<br>
'''Crestfallen'''
'''A Song for a Son'''<br>
'''I of the Mourning'''
BC: Thank you.  ...  I need to catch my breath, heh heh heh. ...  Thank you.  It’s what you call in show business “stall” so I can catch my breath.  Stalling.  This my man Jeff Schroeder right here.  Jeff said...<br>
'''A Song for a Son'''
Guy in crowd: Billy, what about Obama?<br>
BC: Thank you.  ...  I need to catch my breath, heh heh heh. ...  Thank you.  It’s what you call in show business “stall” so I can catch my breath.  Stalling.  This my man Jeff Schroeder right here.  Jeff said...
BC: ‘Scuse me?<br>
Guy in crowd: Billy, what about Obama?
Several people in crowd: Obama!<br>
BC: ‘Scuse me?
BC: Obama who?  Obama who?<br>
Several people in crowd: Obama!
People in crowd: He won!  We won!<br>
BC: Obama who?  Obama who?
BC: I don’t see any Obama up here, okay?  He ain’t doing me any good right now.  I mean, god bless my man from Chicago but he ain’t helping me right now, you know what I mean?  If he can, if he can help me catch my breath, that would be good.  ''(crowd yelling)'' This is not an open forum like, uh, you know?  This is a rock concert, you remember that?  Concerts?  As we all know, I do better when I play and not talk so I’m gonna to stick to that program tonight.  Gonna show you how we would feel through song, through song.  And fortunately for me, I did not write this next song...but I wish I had, it’s a beautiful.  I-I think you’ll recognize it.<br>
People in crowd: He won!  We won!
'''Landslide''' (Billy/Jeff acoustic)<br>
BC: I don’t see any Obama up here, okay?  He ain’t doing me any good right now.  I mean, god bless my man from Chicago but he ain’t helping me right now, you know what I mean?  If he can, if he can help me catch my breath, that would be good.  ''(crowd yelling)'' This is not an open forum like, uh, you know?  This is a rock concert, you remember that?  Concerts?  As we all know, I do better when I play and not talk so I’m gonna to stick to that program tonight.  Gonna show you how we would feel through song, through song.  And fortunately for me, I did not write this next song...but I wish I had, it’s a beautiful.  I-I think you’ll recognize it.
BC: Now I did write this next one.<br>
'''Landslide''' (Billy/Jeff acoustic)
'''Disarm''' (acoustic)<br>
BC: Now I did write this next one.
'''Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness'''<br>
'''Disarm''' (acoustic)
> '''Galapogos'''<br>
'''Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness'''
'''Gossamer'''<br>
> '''Galapogos'''
'''As Rome Burns'''<br>
'''Gossamer'''
'''The Sounds of Silence'''<br>
'''As Rome Burns'''
> '''Li’l Red Riding Hood'''<br>
'''The Sounds of Silence'''
'''The March Hare'''<br>
> '''Li’l Red Riding Hood'''
> '''Suffer (partial)'''<br>
'''The March Hare'''
> '''The March Hare'''<br>
> '''Suffer (partial)'''
'''Age of Innocence'''<br>
> '''The March Hare'''
(BC during breakdown after 2nd chorus: Toronto.  Toronto.  Rock-tonto!  Hasn’t caught on yet.  Ladies and gentlemen, that is the end of the show.  We’d like to thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.  Thank you.  Thank you.  Thank you.)<br>
'''Age of Innocence'''
[encore break]<br>
(BC during breakdown after 2nd chorus: Toronto.  Toronto.  Rock-tonto!  Hasn’t caught on yet.  Ladies and gentlemen, that is the end of the show.  We’d like to thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.  Thank you.  Thank you.  Thank you.)
'''That’s the Way''' (acoustic)<br>
[encore break]
BC: Before we finish up...say thank you one more time for a great show and thank you for the great two night stand, Toronto, thank you. ...  And, uh, all pumpkin jokes aside, I think, uh...<br>
'''That’s the Way''' (acoustic)
Girl in crowd: I love you!<br>
BC: Before we finish up...say thank you one more time for a great show and thank you for the great two night stand, Toronto, thank you. ...  And, uh, all pumpkin jokes aside, I think, uh...
Other girl in crowd: I love you too!<br>
Girl in crowd: I love you!
BC: Okay, we’ll deal with that later, baby.  Um, heh heh heh.  I think, uh, I think there are a few moments in our life that we have to step back and say “whoa” and I think what’s going on in America right now with President ''Obama'', which is mind-boggling.  ...  I’m very proud of my country right now for doing the right thing. ...  So let’s hope that today, today we can look back...ten, twenty years and look back at some new dreams, new realities, new intelligence, heh heh.  Maybe they can stop spying on us now.  Fuckin’ chem trails, whatever the fuck they’re putting in the air!<br>
Other girl in crowd: I love you too!
Guy in crowd: Billy for president!<br>
BC: Okay, we’ll deal with that later, baby.  Um, heh heh heh.  I think, uh, I think there are a few moments in our life that we have to step back and say “whoa” and I think what’s going on in America right now with President ''Obama'', which is mind-boggling.  ...  I’m very proud of my country right now for doing the right thing. ...  So let’s hope that today, today we can look back...ten, twenty years and look back at some new dreams, new realities, new intelligence, heh heh.  Maybe they can stop spying on us now.  Fuckin’ chem trails, whatever the fuck they’re putting in the air!
BC: Yeah right.  ...  I’d tax your ass so bad.  You guys pay high enough taxes here anyway.  You don’t, you don’t need any higher taxes.  I mean, right?  I know that whole thing where hockey players don’t want to come here ‘cause of the taxes, right?  I don’t know.  Right?  Hurts NHL franchises in Canada, right?  Okay.  Not that our Hawks in Chicago are doing very well.  How are your Kings doing?  You don’t want to talk about the Kings.  Gretzky’s coming back, I hear...to throw out the first puck, I think.  Anyway, thank you very much, uh, for the faint of heart, this is one more trip into interspeller...heh heh...interstellar space so you may want to go now.  For the rest of you, enjoy the ride and we’ll see you next time, okay?<br>
Guy in crowd: Billy for president!
'''I Am One Pt. 2'''<br>
BC: Yeah right.  ...  I’d tax your ass so bad.  You guys pay high enough taxes here anyway.  You don’t, you don’t need any higher taxes.  I mean, right?  I know that whole thing where hockey players don’t want to come here ‘cause of the taxes, right?  I don’t know.  Right?  Hurts NHL franchises in Canada, right?  Okay.  Not that our Hawks in Chicago are doing very well.  How are your Kings doing?  You don’t want to talk about the Kings.  Gretzky’s coming back, I hear...to throw out the first puck, I think.  Anyway, thank you very much, uh, for the faint of heart, this is one more trip into interspeller...heh heh...interstellar space so you may want to go now.  For the rest of you, enjoy the ride and we’ll see you next time, okay?
</blockquote>
'''I Am One Pt. 2'''
}}
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