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BC: Thank you.  Uh, Rick wanted to do everything live, so it was simply a matter of going out into [[w:Shangri-La_(recording_studio)|the studio]]...which, amazingly, survived [[w:Woolsey_Fire|the fires of Malibu]], I don’t know if anybody heard about those, but they--I think they lost ten thousand homes.  Just cray--crazy fire.  And um, but somehow his studio where we recorded this album survived, this historic studio.  And so I--I would vibe out and do the takes and, as you’ll hear, it’s a fairly intimate song.  And I came back in to get Rick’s feedback on the takes and he goes, “Is this song about aliens?”  I said, “And you know...it is, heh, this is crazy.”  And he’s like, “Cool, man, tell me more.”  And I said, “Well, to be honest”--and I’m being honest with you, obviously--I said, “To be honest, this song is about me singing to the aliens, ‘Get me the fuck off this planet!’” ''(gesticulating unintelligibly during next sentence)''  Always with the...bring the band and the...thing and we....  So if you’re nice, I’ll take you to them.  So, that’s what the song is about.
BC: Thank you.  Uh, Rick wanted to do everything live, so it was simply a matter of going out into [[w:Shangri-La_(recording_studio)|the studio]]...which, amazingly, survived [[w:Woolsey_Fire|the fires of Malibu]], I don’t know if anybody heard about those, but they--I think they lost ten thousand homes.  Just cray--crazy fire.  And um, but somehow his studio where we recorded this album survived, this historic studio.  And so I--I would vibe out and do the takes and, as you’ll hear, it’s a fairly intimate song.  And I came back in to get Rick’s feedback on the takes and he goes, “Is this song about aliens?”  I said, “And you know...it is, heh, this is crazy.”  And he’s like, “Cool, man, tell me more.”  And I said, “Well, to be honest”--and I’m being honest with you, obviously--I said, “To be honest, this song is about me singing to the aliens, ‘Get me the fuck off this planet!’” ''(gesticulating unintelligibly during next sentence)''  Always with the...bring the band and the...thing and we....  So if you’re nice, I’ll take you to them.  So, that’s what the song is about.
'''The Long Goodbye'''
'''The Long Goodbye'''
BC: Now I’ve made the mistake of talking about this song...in the press.  I don’t know why.  But I said--‘cause you get asked the standard question, like, “Oh, I really like that song.”  I recognize that it might have something to do with [[w:David Bowie|David Bowie]]’s [[w:Duncan_Jones|son, now a famed director]], but at the time, originally he was named ''(pronounces with short “o”, like “ow”)'' Zowie Bowie or ''(pronounces with long “o”, like “oh”)'' Zowie Bowie.  And so I named this song ''(pronounced with short “o”)'' Zow--I call it Zowie.  And I made the mistake of saying “Yeah, it’s got something to do with David Bowie,” who had recently passed.  And that turned into “the song is about David Bowie.”  Not that that’s a problem ‘cause I love David Bowie and I know a lot of you do too.  ‘Course I remember also in the ‘90s when David was getting treated really badly.  Heh heh, but now they love him.  But that’s a story for another day.
BC: Now I’ve made the mistake of talking about this song...in the press.  I don’t know why.  But I said--‘cause you get asked the standard question, like, “Oh, I really like that song.”  I recognize that it might have something to do with [[David Bowie]]’s [[w:Duncan_Jones|son, now a famed director]], but at the time, originally he was named ''(pronounces with short “o”, like “ow”)'' Zowie Bowie or ''(pronounces with long “o”, like “oh”)'' Zowie Bowie.  And so I named this song ''(pronounced with short “o”)'' Zow--I call it Zowie.  And I made the mistake of saying “Yeah, it’s got something to do with David Bowie,” who had recently passed.  And that turned into “the song is about David Bowie.”  Not that that’s a problem ‘cause I love David Bowie and I know a lot of you do too.  ‘Course I remember also in the ‘90s when David was getting treated really badly.  Heh heh, but now they love him.  But that’s a story for another day.
Guy in crowd: We all love having you here, man.
Guy in crowd: We all love having you here, man.
BC: I don’t know what you said, but I’m sure it was important.  Anyway.  So I will tell you...what this song is about.  I started playing these chords.  ''(plays approx. first 11 chords of Zowie)''  And then I thought, oh, that’s kind of cool, that sounds like something David would wrote, that’s like a kind of a typical kind of David [unintelligible word] type change.  And I’ve made no bones about how much I’ve taken from David as an inspiration, so...cool, I start writing the song and I start playing this song, I started thinking about David, about his death and his career and our personal conversations and the time I got to spend with him and [[w:Billy_Corgan_1997-01-09|the time he invited me to play his 50th birthday party]] at [[w:Madison Square Garden|Madison Square Garden]] with [[w:Lou Reed|Lou Reed]] and [[w:Robert Smith (musician)|Robert Smith]] and uh, so many other great artists.  Is this interesting, my little...?  I hear Scots ordering beer and I dunno...I realize that’s like blood around here but, um, anyway.  So...as a songwriter, I can’t speak for everybody but when I play, different energies kinda flowed in and out.  Memories, conversations, opinions.  So now I’m playing this--''(plays first 6 chords under talking)'' one of these chords and I’m meditating on it...this man.  And then I go off it.  But the truth of the matter is is...maybe about two months, three months after David died, he came to me in a dream.  And I’ve had these dreams throughout my life where when someone passes to the other side, I have a very specific type of dream, um, and the dreams are so real, like...like I can actually touch things in the dream, like it feels--I don’t know if I’m having these dreams.  Like, most of my dreams are weird and--like everybody’s dreams--but in these specific dreams, like, there’s physical--it’s as much of a reality as we’re in right now.  Like, there’s a floor and there’s--and I can feel everything and I can--if somebody hugs me, I can feel them hugging me.  So it’s almost like an alternate reality, I don’t know, and I’ve had relatives come, I’ve had other famous people come, I’ve had people I don’t even know come.  And David came to me in a dream.  And no, I don’t want to talk about the dream ‘cause there was specific things only for me and of course I don’t want the press or the clickbait world to abuse it, not that they would.  But that said...it’s really about honoring in the only way that I know how.  Not to rip him off, not to say he was a god, he was a man like any other.  But what he did for me and the fact that in my own way, I felt he reached out to me to let me know, “Hey, I’m okay,” and then he showed me very specific things that told me keep going and so that’s what this song is about.
BC: I don’t know what you said, but I’m sure it was important.  Anyway.  So I will tell you...what this song is about.  I started playing these chords.  ''(plays approx. first 11 chords of Zowie)''  And then I thought, oh, that’s kind of cool, that sounds like something David would wrote, that’s like a kind of a typical kind of David [unintelligible word] type change.  And I’ve made no bones about how much I’ve taken from David as an inspiration, so...cool, I start writing the song and I start playing this song, I started thinking about David, about his death and his career and our personal conversations and the time I got to spend with him and [[w:Billy_Corgan_1997-01-09|the time he invited me to play his 50th birthday party]] at [[w:Madison Square Garden|Madison Square Garden]] with [[w:Lou Reed|Lou Reed]] and [[w:Robert Smith (musician)|Robert Smith]] and uh, so many other great artists.  Is this interesting, my little...?  I hear Scots ordering beer and I dunno...I realize that’s like blood around here but, um, anyway.  So...as a songwriter, I can’t speak for everybody but when I play, different energies kinda flowed in and out.  Memories, conversations, opinions.  So now I’m playing this--''(plays first 6 chords under talking)'' one of these chords and I’m meditating on it...this man.  And then I go off it.  But the truth of the matter is is...maybe about two months, three months after David died, he came to me in a dream.  And I’ve had these dreams throughout my life where when someone passes to the other side, I have a very specific type of dream, um, and the dreams are so real, like...like I can actually touch things in the dream, like it feels--I don’t know if I’m having these dreams.  Like, most of my dreams are weird and--like everybody’s dreams--but in these specific dreams, like, there’s physical--it’s as much of a reality as we’re in right now.  Like, there’s a floor and there’s--and I can feel everything and I can--if somebody hugs me, I can feel them hugging me.  So it’s almost like an alternate reality, I don’t know, and I’ve had relatives come, I’ve had other famous people come, I’ve had people I don’t even know come.  And David came to me in a dream.  And no, I don’t want to talk about the dream ‘cause there was specific things only for me and of course I don’t want the press or the clickbait world to abuse it, not that they would.  But that said...it’s really about honoring in the only way that I know how.  Not to rip him off, not to say he was a god, he was a man like any other.  But what he did for me and the fact that in my own way, I felt he reached out to me to let me know, “Hey, I’m okay,” and then he showed me very specific things that told me keep going and so that’s what this song is about.