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{{infobox live show
| name = Machina/The Machines of God
| artist = The Smashing Pumpkins
| type = studio
| date = November 25, 2008
| artist = [[The Smashing Pumpkins]]
| venue = [[w:Midland Theatre|Midland Theatre]]
| cover = The smashing pumpkins machina cover.jpg
| location = Kansas City, MO, US
| alt =  
| venue_type = Theater
| released = February 29, 2000
| lat = 39.09888889
| discogs = 48755
| lng = -94.58361111
| musicbrainz = 98cbc7a6-7229-3b64-b974-fc4cb2ff0505
| capacity = 3573
| recorded = [[November 1998-September 1999 – Pumpkinland|November 1998 – October 1999]]
| lineup = Billy Corgan, Jimmy Chamberlin, Jeff Schroeder, Ginger Pooley, Lisa Harriton, Kristopher Pooley, Gingger Shankar, Stephen Bradley, Gabrial McNair
| studio = Sadlands, Pumpkinland, Chicago Recording Company
| bands = The Smashing Pumpkins
| genre = *Alternative rock<ref>{{cite web | url=http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,996280,00.html | title=Music: Machina/The Machines of God - The Smashing Pumpkins | work=[[w:Time (magazine)|Time]] | date=March 6, 2000 | accessdate=July 26, 2015 | author=Farley, CHristopher John}}</ref>
| tour = 20th Anniversary
*alternative metal<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.mtv.com/sendme.tin?page=/mtv/music/reviews/archive/blather/smashing_pumpkins_00.html |title=The Smashing Pumpkins - Machina/The Machines of God |publisher=[[w:MTV|MTV Online]] |accessdate=July 26, 2015 |author=Ferguson, Jason |url-status=dead |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20010725043901/http://www.mtv.com/sendme.tin?page=%2Fmtv%2Fmusic%2Freviews%2Farchive%2Fblather%2Fsmashing_pumpkins_00.html |archivedate=July 25, 2001 }}</ref>
*gothic rock
*dream pop
| length = 73:23
| label = [[:Category:Virgin Records albums|Virgin]]
| producer = Billy Corgan, Flood
| misc = {{Singles
| name        = Machina/The Machines of God
| type        = studio
| single1    = [[The Everlasting Gaze]]
| single1date = December 9, 1999
| single2    = [[Stand Inside Your Love]]
| single2date = February 21, 2000
| single3    = [[Try, Try, Try]]
| single3date = September 11, 2000
}}
}}
}}
'''''Machina/The Machines of God''''' is the fifth studio album by [[The Smashing Pumpkins]], released on February 29, 2000, by [[:Category:Virgin Records singles|Virgin Records]]. A [[:Category:Concept albums|concept album]],<ref name="kroq">Interview with Billy Corgan, May 24, 2000, [[w:KROQ-FM|KROQ-FM]]</ref> it marked the return of drummer [[Jimmy Chamberlin]] and was intended to be the band's final official LP release prior to their first break up in 2000. A sequel album—''[[Machina II/The Friends & Enemies of Modern Music]]''—was later released independently via the Internet, and limited quantities for the physical version.
As with its predecessor, ''[[Adore]]'', ''Machina'' represented a drastic image and sound change for the band. After the relatively brief [[Adore tour|''Adore'' tour]], the new line-up with Chamberlin and the former [[W:Hole (band)|Hole]] bass guitarist [[Melissa Auf der Maur]] mounted longer international tours that returned the live incarnation of the band to a guitar-driven hard rock style.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.livedaily.com/archive/2000/2k02/wk1/ReviewSmashingPumpkinsPla.html |title=Review: Smashing Pumpkins Play Visceral Show in Northern California (02/7/2000) |last=Reiley |first=Laura |date=February 7, 2000 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20000229191724/http://www.livedaily.com/archive/2000/2k02/wk1/ReviewSmashingPumpkinsPla.html |archivedate=February 29, 2000 |accessdate=October 9, 2012}}</ref>
== Background and concept ==
After the ''Adore'' tour ended in the second half of 1998, lead singer/guitarist [[Billy Corgan]] immediately began to work on new material, playing new songs as early as October of that year.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.spfc.org/tours/date.html?tour_id=633 |title=spfc.org : Tour History – Dates : 1998/10/31 |work=spfc.org |accessdate=October 9, 2012}}</ref> In the same month, the four original band members convened, and decided that Jimmy Chamberlin would rejoin the band, and that a final album and tour would be mounted before the group disbanded permanently.<ref>{{cite journal |last=Kot |first=Greg |title=Pumpkin Seeds |journal=Guitar World |date=January 2002}}</ref> "If you want to know what Jimmy brings back to the band," Corgan told ''Q'', "then listen to ''Adore'' and this new record back-to-back. It speaks for itself."<ref>''[[w:Q (magazine)|Q]]'', March 2000</ref> According to an August 19, 2014 interview with Ryan Leas, Corgan explained, "I was thinking like, you know, what the Beatles did with Sgt. Pepper’s. Why can’t we make a really different type of record? So that was my thinking going into it."<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.stereogum.com/1698954/inside-baseball-with-billy-corgan-the-smashing-pumpkins-leader-on-adore-machina-and-the-end-of-teargarden-by-kaleidyscope/franchises/interview/ |title=Inside Baseball With Billy Corgan: The Smashing Pumpkins Head On Adore, MACHINA, And The End Of Teargarden | date=August 19, 1994 |website=Stereogum|accessdate=December 9, 2019}}</ref>
Corgan envisioned a lengthy concept album in conjunction with a musical theater approach to a tour, based around the idea of the band playing exaggerated versions of themselves, as the press and public seemed to view them.<ref name="borges">{{cite web |url=http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/countygrind/2010/07/qa_billy_corgan_regret_smashing_pumpkins.php |title=Q&A: Billy Corgan Reveals Biggest Regret, Weighs Indie Versus Corporate Rock Ahead of Tonight's Show at Revolution |last=Borges |first=Christine |date=July 20, 2010 |work=[[w:New Times Broward-Palm Beach|browardpalmbeach.com]] |accessdate=October 9, 2012}}</ref><ref>Episode 59 of ''[[w:VH1 Storytellers|VH1 Storytellers]]'', August 24, 2000</ref> He later explained, "the band had become such cartoon characters at that point in the way we were portrayed in the media, the idea was that we would sort of go out and pretend we were the cartoon characters."<ref name="borges"/> From there, a story was conceived revolving around a rock star named Zero (based on the ''[[Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness|Mellon Collie]]'' character and Corgan's public persona) hearing the voice of God, renaming himself Glass, and renaming his band The Machines of God. Fans of the band were referred to as the "Ghost Children".<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.3ammagazine.com/3am/cherubs-zeros-glass-children-swans-symbolism-in-lyrics-of-the-smashing-pumpkins/ |title=cherubs, zeros, glass children & swans – symbolism in lyrics of the smashing pumpkins | date=April 24, 2018 |website=3:AM Magazine|accessdate=December 9, 2019}}</ref>
[[File:Machina chart.jpg|thumb|left|Billy Corgan's chart showing the loose story of ''Machina'' and ''Machina II''|link=Special:FilePath/Machina_chart.jpg]]
== Recording ==
{{Main|November 1998-September 1999 – Pumpkinland}}
Much like previous albums, the songs were first [[Late 1998 – Sadlands, Chicago|tracked acoustically at Corgan's house]] in late 1998<ref name="late 1998">{{cite web |url=http://www.spfc.org/band/studio.html?session_id=46 |title=spfc.org : Studio Sessions : Late 1998 – Sadlands (Billy's House) |work=spfc.org |accessdate=October 9, 2012}}</ref> before the band set to work on them at their practice space and the [[Chicago Recording Company]]. The recording was conducted with the team responsible for finishing ''Adore'' – co-producer [[Flood]] and engineers Howard Willing and [[W:Bjorn Thorsrud|Bjorn Thorsrud]].
The band took a break from recording in April 1999 to embark on [[The Arising! tour|''The Arising!'' tour]], which took the band to nine small clubs. After the tour's conclusion, the bass guitarist, [[D'arcy Wretzky]], left the band, leaving the rest of them in a difficult position. Corgan later said, "This put a stress obviously on the full integrity of the project, because it was connected to the band not only bringing the music to fruition fully, but also the public component of being in character. I ended up in a broken band with a half-ass enthusiasm towards finishing a project already started."<ref>[http://hipstersunited.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/ch6the-story-of-machina-so-what-could-i-do-but-try-to-finish/] Archive of [http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/news_9270]{{dead link}}. September 12, 2008.</ref>
Flood later remembered, "We decided that we were going to have to make a very different kind of record [...] we pretty much went back to the drawing board. Certain songs on the record are survivors from that first period, but it meant a shift in the ways songs had to be formed."<ref>{{cite journal |last=Thomas |first=Richard |title=Signal to Noise: The Sonic Diary of the Smashing Pumpkins |journal=EQ |date=October 2008}}</ref>
Corgan described the new recording process for ''Machina'', now focused more on the song development than on the concept:
{{cquote|We spent most of the time trying to take the songs as far as they could be taken down a particular avenue. So if it was gonna be proto-cyber metal, we tried to make it very proto and very cyber. If it was acoustic, then we tried to not fall into the typical ballad-y kind of aspects. That's where we spent most of our time. The songs were probably written in about a day.<ref name="mtv2000">{{cite web |url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1434163/20000302/smashing_pumpkins.jhtml |title=Billy Corgan Discusses Painless "''Machina''" Sessions |last=Basham |first=David |date=March 2, 2000 |work=[[w:MTV|mtv.com]] |accessdate=October 9, 2012}}</ref>}}


In the end, the theatrical qualities of the live performances and appearances were mostly abandoned. Many of the songs on the album refer to the ending of love and relationships (both romantic and otherwise), most of them obvious references to the band themselves. Corgan described "This Time" as "my love song to the band."<ref>{{cite web |url=https://twitter.com/Billy/status/78435594295975936 |title=Twitter / Billy: I Bet You Didn't Know That ... |last=Corgan |first=Billy |authorlink=Billy Corgan |date=June 8, 2011 |work=[[w:Twitter|Twitter]] |accessdate=October 9, 2012}}</ref> According to Corgan, the album was structured so that the first eight tracks would be "more poppy", and the last seven "more arty." Generally, Corgan appraised the sound of the album as "a rock 'n' roll approach with pop sensibility."<ref>{{cite journal |title=[Billy Corgan interview] |journal=INSite}}</ref> After the [[W:Electronica|electronica]]-influenced ''Adore'', ''Machina'' was a return to the distorted guitar sound of previous albums, though synthesizers and acoustic guitars were still heavily used.
== Setlist ==
# {{live song|Ava Adore}}
# {{live song|Cupid de Locke}}
# {{live song|1979}}
# {{live song|99 Floors}}
# {{live song|Owata}}
# {{live song|Sunkissed}}
# {{live song|Soma}}
# {{live song|Cherub Rock}}
# {{live song|Zero}}
# {{live song|Bodies}}
# {{live song|Crestfallen}}
# {{live song|I of the Mourning}}
# {{live song|A Song for a Son}}
# {{live song|Like to Get to Know You|tease=1|cover=[[w:Spanky and Our Gang|Spanky and Our Gang]]}}
# {{live song|Rock On|tease=1|cover=[[w:David Essex|David Essex]]}}
# {{live song|Only Wanna Be With You|tease=1|cover=[[w:Hootie & the Blowfish|Hootie & the Blowfish]]}}
## (improv: "Good Times")
# {{live song|Geek U.S.A.|tease=1}}
# {{live song|I Am One|tease=1}}
# {{live song|Thirty-Three|tease=1}}
# {{live song|Smells Like Teen Spirit|tease=1|cover=[[w:Nirvana (band)|Nirvana]]}}
# {{live song|Landslide|cover=[[w:Stevie Nicks|Stevie Nicks]]}}
# {{live song|Disarm}}
# {{live song|Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (song)|title=Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness}}
# {{live song|Galapogos}}
# {{live song|Gossamer}}
# {{live song|As Rome Burns}}
# {{live song|The Sounds of Silence|cover=[[w:Paul Simon|Paul Simon]]}}
## {{live song|Li'l Red Riding Hood|cover=[[w:Sam the Sham|Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs]]}}
# {{live song|The March Hare}}
## {{live song|Suffer|note=middle section only}}
# {{live song|Age of Innocence}}


== Marketing and release ==
=== Encore ===
''Machina'' was released as a single album on February 29, 2000, with a bonus disc, ''[[Still Becoming Apart]]'', available at certain stores.[[File:Spiotm.jpg|thumb|right|"I of the Mourning" promotional single cover|link=Special:FilePath/Spiotm.jpg]]
# {{live song|That's the Way (My Love Is)}}
# {{live song|I Am One Part II}}


A video was made for "[[Stand Inside Your Love]]", the planned first single, in late 1999, but at the last minute, "[[The Everlasting Gaze]]" was issued as the album's first promotional radio single in December 1999. "Stand Inside Your Love" was released as the first commercially available single on January 21, 2000. "[[I of the Mourning]]" was also released as a promotional single and received limited airplay. "[[Heavy Metal Machine]]" was issued as a promotional cassette but was not distributed to radio stations.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?page=COLLDETAILS&item=882 |title=..: SPfreaks :.. |work=spfreaks.com |accessdate=October 9, 2012 |url-status=dead |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20110716115025/http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?page=COLLDETAILS&item=882 |archivedate=July 16, 2011 }}</ref>
=== Notes ===


On March 9, the band went on the Thursday edition of ''@MTV Week'' at Broadway Studios in New York City for a half-hour live TV special. During the broadcast they performed "The Everlasting Gaze" as well as "I of the Mourning" after an online and call-in voting competition between three songs from ''Machina''. The special also featured [[W:Carson Daly|Carson Daly]] interviewing the band members and online chats with the band, and an interactive online video for "[[The Crying Tree of Mercury]]."
* "99 Floors", "Owata", "Sunkissed", "Landslide", "Disarm", and "That's the Way (My Love Is)" performed acoustic


On May 23, Corgan announced on KROQ-FM that the band would be breaking up at the end of the year.<ref name="kroq"/> The band reconvened in a studio to finish off the leftover ''Machina'' tracks, but Virgin remained uninterested, so the band released ''[[w:Machina II/The Friends & Enemies of Modern Music|Machina II]]'' on their own in September, handing them off to fans to distribute free over the Internet.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.spfc.org/band/studio.html?session_id=47 |title=spfc.org : Studio Sessions : Jul 2000 – Chicago Recording Company |work=spfc.org |accessdate=October 9, 2012}}</ref>
== Banter ==


The video for the final single, "[[Try, Try, Try]]", directed by [[W:Jonas Åkerlund|Jonas Åkerlund]], was released on September 11, 2000, but did not receive airplay in the US due to its graphic content.<ref>{{cite video |title=[[w:The Smashing Pumpkins – Greatest Hits Video Collection (1991–2000)|The Smashing Pumpkins – Greatest Hits Video Collection (1991–2000)]] |type="Try, Try, Try" video commentary |date=November 20, 2001}}</ref>
{{banter|1=
 
2008 Intro
=== Glass and The Machines of God ===
'''Ava Adore'''
{{main|Glass and The Machines of God}}
BC: Yeaaah, that’s right.  That’s right.
[[File:Spgatmog.jpg|thumb|left|"GATMOG" characters bearing a resemblance to The Smashing Pumpkins' bandmembers]]
'''Cupid de Locke'''
Although the full extent of the original concept went unrealized, the storyline of Glass was tied to the album's release and marketing. A sequence of writings, by Corgan, were released under the name [[Glass and The Machines of God|''Glass and The Machines of God'']] starting in the CD booklet and continuing over the internet and elsewhere.<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.pumpkins.it/glass.html|title=pumpkins.it|website=www.pumpkins.it|accessdate=November 2, 2019}}</ref> Additional entries, under the name "Chards of Glass", were posted by the band while on tour.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.hugedomains.com/domain_profile.cfm?d=nachtkabaret&e=com|title=HugeDomains.com - NachTKabaret.com is for sale (Nach T Kabaret)|website=www.hugedomains.com|accessdate=November 2, 2019}}</ref> Corgan challenged fans to solve the "''Machina'' mystery" hinted at through it all, and in December 2000 posted his favorite fan interpretations.<ref>{{cite web| url = http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/winners.html| title = contest winners| date = December 13, 2000| archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20010215034947/http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/winners.html| archivedate = February 15, 2001| accessdate = August 8, 2010}}</ref>
(BC over remaining instrumental after lyrics finish: Good evening, everybody!  Welcome to our show.  Thank you very much, thank you.  Thank you, thank you, welcome to the show.  Welcome to the show.)
 
'''1979'''
The booklet artwork, a series of paintings by [[W:Vasily Kafanov|Vasily Kafanov]], loosely told the album's story while hinting at themes related to alchemy, chemistry, metallurgy, physics, medicine, astrology, semiotics, mysticism, spiritualism, and art. The album was [[:Category:Grammy Award nominations|nominated]] for a 2001 Grammy for [[W:Grammy Award for Best Recording Package|Best Recording Package]].<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.digitalhit.com/grammy/43/nominees.shtml|title=43rd Annual Grammy Awards Nominations Coverage (2001) &#124; DigitalHit.com|website=www.digitalhit.com|accessdate=November 2, 2019}}</ref>
BC: Thank you very much, thank you.
 
'''99 Floors''' (acoustic)
In June 2001, a viral marketing campaign written by [[W:Jim Evans (artist)|Jim Evans]] and Division 13 was launched via the Smashing Pumpkins message board, encouraging users to seek out mysterious websites and video clips. This early example of an internet-based alternate reality game eventually unveiled the news of a new online animated series by [[W:Sony|Sony]] based on the ''Machina'' story. Due in part to the changing circumstances surrounding the album's rollout, the series was shelved before any episodes were completed, though several portions have been leaked to YouTube.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt6tTK4-e9w|title=YouTube|website=www.youtube.com|accessdate=November 2, 2019}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLtewB8UjL4|title=YouTube|website=www.youtube.com|accessdate=November 2, 2019}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4QmfI0aJA|title=YouTube|website=www.youtube.com|accessdate=November 2, 2019}}</ref> In a 2010 interview, Corgan commented on the abandoned cartoon, stating, "Yeah, I think you can find a few bits and pieces, but it never got finished unfortunately. That would've at least explained what the fuck I was trying to do [laughs]. I'm not even sure now what I was trying to do. But I was trying to do something."<ref name="borges"/>
'''Owata''' (acoustic)
{{clear}}
'''Sunkissed''' (acoustic)
 
'''Soma'''
==Reception==
BC: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, thank you. Thank you.  You recognize that one, that’s a good thing.  No.  We love you too, whoever’s yelling that...up there, we hear you.  That’s right.  Heh heh.  Thank you for coming tonight.  I’m still a little under the weather so we’re trying to just slow it down a little bit...just take it down a second.  Gonna get wild later.  Heh heh heh heh heh.  What is this called anymore, oh, it’s a concert, that’s right.  Exactly, town hall meeting.  Heh, exactly.  Is this a [[w:Red_states_and_blue_states|red state or a blue state]]?, I can’t remember.  ''(crowd yelling "Blue!")'' A boo state?, a heh heh heh.  Isn’t this a red state?  Who’s - who’s a red state?  Who pretends they’re not a red state but they really are?  There you go, heh, I knew you were out there. ''(laughing/coughing)''  Ah, you make me laugh. Okay, like to play you one you also know or you should know. It’s a rare moment of familiarity, enjoy it, it won’t last. We're gonna do our jazz set tonight, heh heh heh. Wanna show you who we really are, heh heh heh.  ''(Billy claps on mic and audience follows)''  That’s right, that’s right.  There you go.  If you clap, we actually play, yeah.
===Critical reception===
'''Cherub Rock'''
{{Album ratings
> '''Zero'''
| MC = 66/100<ref name="metacritic">{{cite web |url=https://www.metacritic.com/music/machinathe-machines-of-god/the-smashing-pumpkins |title=Reviews for MACHINA/the machines of God by Smashing Pumpkins |publisher=[[w:Metacritic|Metacritic]] |accessdate=January 12, 2013}}</ref>
> '''Bodies'''
| rev1 = [[w:AllMusic|AllMusic]]
'''Crestfallen'''
| rev1score = {{Rating|3|5}}<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.allmusic.com/album/machina-the-machines-of-god-mw0000453832 |title=MACHINA/The Machines of God – The Smashing Pumpkins |publisher=[[w:AllMusic|AllMusic]] |accessdate=August 23, 2011 |last=Erlewine |first=Stephen Thomas |authorlink=w:Stephen Thomas Erlewine}}</ref>
'''I of the Mourning'''
| rev2 = ''[[w:Chicago Sun-Times|Chicago Sun-Times]]''
'''A Song for a Son'''
| rev2score = {{Rating|3.5|4}}<ref name=derogatis/>
BC: Thank you, thank you. ... That was a new song. Yeah, you remember new songs, me too. Heh, the old days. How you doin’, you okay?  Yeah. That was overwhelming, your response, heh heh heh.
| rev3 = ''[[w:Entertainment Weekly|Entertainment Weekly]]''
Guy in crowd: How are you doing?!
| rev3score = C+<ref>{{cite journal |url=http://www.ew.com/article/2000/03/03/machinathe-machines-god |title=MACHINA/the machines of God |journal=[[w:Entertainment Weekly|Entertainment Weekly]] |date=March 3, 2000 |accessdate=January 12, 2013 |last=Browne |first=David |authorlink=w:David Browne (journalist)}}</ref>
BC: That’s not cheering me, how are ''you'' doing?  Ehhh.  Economy got you down, what’s the deal?  T-shirt prices too high, what’s going on?  What’s up with what?  The price of the T-shirts?  Yeah.  It’s not - it’s not uh, it’s, heroin expense, a hair - heroin addiction is expensive.  It’s not easy buying all that dope.  Adds up. You have to buy the [[w:Maserati|Maserati]] and then you have to get the dope.  Then you have to put in your [[w:In_Rainbows|free Radiohead CD]]...and um, yeah.  Isn’t that funny, you cheered more for Radiohead than you did for your own “How are you doin’?”  That’s the state of the world right there...right?  That’s the world we live in. Heh heh heh. How you doin’ up there, couple?  Yeah.  You guys gettin' married?  Are you married?  They just know how to do this, they don’t know how to say anything, heh heh.  That’s love today, Jeff.  Just inarticulate kinda “urrr.”  So I’m just trying to catch my breath, I’ve been - I’ve had a cold for about 10 days as I’m sure you can tell. I’m just trying to catch my breath, I’m trying to get to know you more.  I wanna get to know you.
| rev4 = ''[[w:Los Angeles Times|Los Angeles Times]]''
'''Like to Get to Know You''' (tease)
| rev4score = {{Rating|3|4}}<ref>{{cite news |url=http://articles.latimes.com/2000/feb/27/entertainment/ca-2990 |title=Pumpkins' Luscious Noise Coats Familiar Ideas |newspaper=[[w:Los Angeles Times|Los Angeles Times]] |date=February 27, 2000 |accessdate=November 29, 2015 |last=Nichols |first=Natalie |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20160307105620/http://articles.latimes.com/2000/feb/27/entertainment/ca-2990 |archivedate=March 7, 2016 |url-status=dead}}</ref>
BC: ''(singing)'' I’d like to get to know you, yes I will.
| rev5 = ''[[w:NME|NME]]''
Guy in crowd: It was [[The_Smashing_Pumpkins_2008-11-24#Banter|the gnome]]!
| rev5score = 6/10<ref name="NME">{{cite journal |url=http://www.nme.com/reviews/reviews/20000223124803.html |title=The Smashing Pumpkins – MACHINA/The Machines Of God |journal=[[w:NME|NME]] |date=February 23, 2000 |accessdate=March 5, 2020 |last=Segal |first=Victoria |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20000407105031/http://www.nme.com/reviews/reviews/20000223124803.html |archivedate=April 7, 2000 |url-status=dead }}</ref>
BC: Exactly, heh heh heh. Yeah, that’s right.
| rev7 = ''[[w:Q (magazine)|Q]]''
Guy in crowd: I wanna go to the star ship!
| rev7score = {{Rating|4|5}}<ref>{{cite journal |url=http://www.qonline.co.uk:80/reviews/server.asp?id=18746 |title=The Smashing Pumpkins: Machina/The Machines of God |journal=[[w:Q (magazine)|Q]] |issue=163 |date=April 2000 |accessdate=August 30, 2018 |last=Elliott |first=Paul |pages=84–85 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20001121134100/http://www.qonline.co.uk/reviews/server.asp?id=18746 |archivedate=November 21, 2000 |url-status=dead}}</ref>
BC: You wanna fuck who, what?  It’s what it always sounds like when the guy yells ''(imitating noise he hears on stage)''. Heh heh.
| rev8 = ''[[w:Rolling Stone|Rolling Stone]]''
Guy in crowd: Fuck that shit!
| rev8score = {{Rating|3.5|5}}<ref>{{cite journal |url=https://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/machina-the-machines-of-god-20000316l |title=Machina/The Machines Of God |journal=[[w:Rolling Stone|Rolling Stone]] |date=March 16, 2000 |accessdate=August 23, 2011 |last=Pareles |first=Jon |authorlink=w:Jon Pareles}}</ref>
BC: Exactly. Let’s all take a deep breath. ''(inhales, exhales)''
| rev9 = ''[[w:Spin (magazine)|Spin]]''
Guy in crowd: Rock on!!!
| rev9score = 7/10<ref>{{cite journal |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=AxnVty3fkhMC&pg=PA145 |title=Age Against the Machine |journal=[[w:Spin (magazine)|Spin]] |volume=16 |issue=3 |date=March 2000 |accessdate=November 30, 2015 |last=Weisbard |first=Eric |pages=145–46}}</ref>
BC: Rock on, I know.
| rev10 = ''[[w:The Village Voice|The Village Voice]]''
'''Rock On''' (tease - Jeff quietly plays a few notes)
| rev10score = C+<ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/cg/cgv300-00.php |title=Consumer Guide |newspaper=[[w:The Village Voice|The Village Voice]] |date=March 28, 2000 |accessdate=November 29, 2015 |last=Christgau |first=Robert |authorlink=w:Robert Christgau}}</ref>
BC: Rock On, see? Rock on: number one, Radiohead: number two, how you doin’: number three.
Jeff: And you don't even know [unintelligible].
BC: We could just jam.  Do a little [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2007-11-09|Hootie]].
'''Only Wanna Be With You''' (tease - instrumental, Billy sings improv lyrics over it)
BC: ''(singing)'' Good times...good friends...good lovin’...is all I want.  ''(stops playing guitar and speaks)'' Yeah, good times. That’s what we’re about, good times. Actually uh, this man over here who was complaining about the T-shirt prices, he didn’t see the booth with the other T-shirts, where we had the Smashing Pumpkins Good Times T-shirt, those are 100 bucks.  You gotta pay to wear that shit.
Guy in crowd: Come on!!
BC: ''(whiny voice)'' “Come on, man, I’ve got somewhere to go, dude, come on.  Hurry up. This is bogus. I didn’t come here to hear you talk or play the fuckin’ kazoo, come on.  Come on.  Hurry up, man, I’ve gotta go home and beat my woman, hurry up.  The fuckin’ [[w:Kansas_Jayhawks|Jayhawks]] are on a delay, man, come on.”  ''(crowd boos loudly)'' Whatever.  Whatever, does anyone care about college anymore?  I didn’t go to college, look at me!  An American success story, that's right.  Just like [[w:Ayn Rand|Ayn Rand]] wrote about, a man of his own destiny, destroying everything in his path. Bands, relationships, friends, ''(makes Godzilla type noise, then explosion noise)''.  Here’s another song: Good times....  ''(plays Only Wanna Be With You riff again briefly, Jeff joins in and continues)'' That’s what I do, that’s what I do: cause a lot of pain and then write about the good times. This is my friend over here, Mr. Jeff Schroeder.  ''(Jeff stops playing)''  When I need some good times, I’m thinkin’ Jeff.  ''(Jeff plays first 3 chords again)''  Hahahaha!  That’s it, good times, you gotta play that.  ''(Jeff plays first two chords)'' Yeah, you need the good time, eh, heh heh heh.
Guy in crowd: [[w:Free Bird|Freebird]]!
BC: Freebird?  Oh, that’s original.  ''(stoner voice)'' “No, man, I was the first guy to say it. ''(normal voice)'' It is my shit.”  Actually, you know, in the ‘90s, we got that a lot, “Freebird,” that was sort of trendy to yell at a concert.  I had the ultimate Freebird - when the guy would yell “Freebird,” I had the ultimate joke: “I’ve got your Freebird right here.”  It works, every time: “I’ve got your Freebird right here.”  That’s the end of the Freebirds.
Guy in crowd: Geek U.S.A.!
Jeff: Right on.
BC: Yeah, Geek U.S.A. on acoustic, Jeff, let’s do it.  Let’s give the people what they want for a change.
'''Geek U.S.A.''' (tease - Jeff and Billy jam on it for about 15 seconds)
BC: Then you gotta go...''(demonstrates two chords)''. Gotta get the good time in there. Geek U.S.A., there you go.  We'll play all your requests, keep 'em coming, what else d'you wanna hear? I Am One?, okay. 
'''I Am One''' (tease - Billy and Jeff jam for about 20 seconds)
BC: ''(over guitar)'' Good times.  ''(singing)'' I am one, good times, good times. ''(tease ends) (speaking)'' I need my fuckin’ goatee and hacky sack and I'm good. Yeah, man. Okay, what else d'you wanna hear?, keep 'em comin’. Thirty-three?, okay.
'''Thirty-three''' (tease - Billy doodles with the guitar part for about 8 seconds)
BC: Good times, heh heh. Ahhh, ah, oh yeah, yeah. Hey, I’d rather do this than what I was gonna do.  Yeah.  [[w:Smells Like Teen Spirit|Smells Like Teen Spirit]], that was a big hit for us.
'''Smells Like Teen Spirit''' (tease - Billy and Jeff play the main riff for about 10 seconds)
BC: That was a big hit for me.  That’s what really took us to another - to another level. Yeah. [[w:Karma Police|Karma Police]], that was another one.  Then of course, there was our cover of [[w:Mrs. Robinson|Mrs. Robinson]], that just - stratosphere, right to the top. A heh heh. Hey, I’m havin’ a good time, let’s go. ''(dumb guy voice)'' “I can’t believe he just stood there for a fuckin’ hour, man, it was fuckin’ bullshit.  Fuckin’ bullshit, I didn’t pay for that fuckin’ bullshit.  I’m never going to see them ever again.  Unless James and D’arcy come back, but then it'll still suck anyway, bullshit.  ...  Although it was cool they did tease I Am One, but it was still bullshit.”  ''(normal voice)'' Yeah.  Yeah.  I’m with ya, I’m with ya.  I’m with ya every second of every day, I’m with ya right here.  Heh heh.  Doomsday Clock?  No, nobody knows that one.  Yeah, one - one time we were playing in Germany about, was about nine months ago....  Can I tell a story or you want me to just keep jammin'?  Good times, alright, back to the good times.  ''(starts playing the Hootie riff again) (singing)'' So I was in Germany....  ''(stops playing and speaks)'' And I asked the crowd, of course in German, ‘cause I’m fluent, um....
Guy in crowd: Yeah, you could do it!
BC: Exactly, and I asked the crowd, I said, uh, “You know, we have a new album out,” and I think we were playing to about three thousand people, right?  ''(re size of crowd, he's thinking [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2008-02-22|2008-02-22]] but the moment he talks about was on [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2008-02-23|2008-02-23]])''  And I said, “We have a new album out and I’d like to know how many people actually have the album,” and I think about only...like about a fifth of the crowd raised their hand, raised their hand, which is, that’s understandable.  Then I said, “How many of you actually ''know'' we have a new album out?”  And only a third of the crowd raised their hand.
Jeff: Yeah, that was the - that was the trick.
BC: That was the trick, right.  Yeah, we have a new album out, it’s called Zeitgeist.  Came out in uh...’bout July 10th, 2007.  And as you know, it was the reason [[w:Barack Obama|Obama]] got elected.  Hidden fact, hidden fact no one knows.  ''(dumb guy voice)'' “I didn’t come here to see him fuckin’ talk, man.  It was fuckin' bullshit.”  ''(normal voice)'' Laser124.  Straight876 replied...''(dumb guy voice)'' “I saw the Pumpkins in 1992 when they were good, man.  Billy didn’t talk back then, it was better.”  ''(normal voice)'' Heh heh heh.  You know what it is?  I had to take some medicine for this fuckin' cold and I think I think I’m totally buzzed, heh heh.  That’s what it is.  Yeah, because, because I’m actually in a happy mood and I’m enjoying having some rapport with you.  And this is n - this is unusual because usually I hate the audience and uh...despise everything they represent so this is really different.  I’m seeing the world with different eyes.  Laser627 eyes.  Here, let’s do a little [[w:VH1_Storytellers|Storyteller]], so anyway...  [[The Smashing Pumpkins 1993-10-30|One time we were playing on Saturday Night Live]], remember that show?  Yeah, we were playing on Saturday Night Live and it was right before Halloween.  I think we were playing like October 30th or something.
Jeff: Awesome, awesome.
BC: And so, we’re - we were actually playing I believe Cherub Rock in [[The_Smashing_Pumpkins_1993-10-28|rehearsal]] and all of a sudden, these lumbering techs brought out all these pumpkins...
Jeff: Aw.
BC: ...‘cause they were gonna dress the set...with pumpkins.
Jeff: Creative, creative, creative.
BC: And I had to pull the guy over and go, “No pumpkins.”  And he was like, “Why?, it’s Halloween.”  I’m like...“We don’t do pumpkins, pumpkins, Smashing Pumpkins, we don’t do pumpkins, we don’t - it’s not like a thing with us.  Or it is a thing with us, we don’t do pumpkins.”  And the guy goes, “Yeah, but it’s Halloween, we’re still gonna - we were gonna put ‘em up there if it was Bruce Springsteen.”  And I said, “I don’t give a fuck what [[w:Honorific_nicknames_in_popular_music#S|The Boss]] is gonna do."
Jeff: Exactly.
BC: "We don’t do pumpkins.”  And I had to get in a fight to get the pumpkins removed.
Jeff: Oh, that’s why you had the black eye that night.
BC: Huh?
Jeff: That's why you had a black eye that night.
BC: No.
Jeff: No, you didn't?
BC: Go with it.  ''(Jeff laughs)''  Yeah, black eye.  So if you watch the Youtube footage of us playing, you won’t see any pumpkins.  This is a big moment for me to actually stand on stage with a pumpkin.  20 years it took me to give in.  And as you see, it’s done a lot for the business.  Okay, back to the show.  Thank you, we hope you’re havin' a good time.  Now that I’ve caught my breath, we could get back to the hit cavalcade.  Many, many hits to go.  Let me count.  One, two...three, heh heh heh.  Cavalcade.  Damn.  This next song, which uh, apparently the way this show is going will be our last song, um....  If I told you it was about the Jayhawks, would it be the last song?  Exactly.  I'm just trying to trick you to get me off the stage.  I gotta get to my dope.  Uh, heh heh heh heh heh.  There you go, oops, sorry about that.  Uh, heh heh heh.  Anyway, people of Earth, I didn’t write this next song, it was written by Ms. [[w:Stevie Nicks|Stevie Nicks]], I think you know her.  And these uh...[[w:Landslide_(Fleetwood_Mac_song)#The_Chicks|it was ruined by those horrible, ugly Dixie Chicks]].  It’s like they came up out of [[w:Middle-earth|Middle Earth]] and recorded this song, [[w:The_Chicks|the Dixie Chicks]].  Put some sort of troll wizard spell on the song.  So it’s hard to let go of the Dixie Chicks but let’s just go back, go back to a simpler time.  You remember 1994?  Yeah.  Let’s check the list: you liked music...you bought CDs...yeah, the bands were good...good times.  ''(Jeff plays the first chord again, he and Billy laugh as Billy starts Landslide)''
'''Landslide''' (Billy/Jeff acoustic)
'''Disarm''' (acoustic)
'''Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness'''
> '''Galapogos'''
'''Gossamer'''
'''As Rome Burns'''
'''The Sounds of Silence'''
> '''Li’l Red Riding Hood'''
'''The March Hare'''
> '''Suffer''' (partial)
> '''The March Hare'''
(BC during quiet part before final part of outro: ''(whispering)'' Take it down, take it down, take it down, take it down, Lower, lower, lower, shhh.  Shhhhhh.  [2 unintelligible words] Chicago Sound Machine.)
'''Age of Innocence'''
(BC before bridge: Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, that is the end of the show!  Thank you very much for comin' tonight!  On behalf of the mighty SP, we say thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.  Now all of us up here ask for one last favor, one last thing, one small thing, just want you to put your hands together like this.  There you go, beautiful.  ''(singing)'' Before the rites of spring...)
(BC immediately after lyrics finish: Thank you very much, thank you!)
[encore break]
'''That’s the Way''' (acoustic)
BC: Thank you very much, thank you.  Thanks a lot.  Before we go, before we go, like to say K.C. for hosting one of our two night extravaganzas [sic].  For those of you that came both nights, thanks a lot, thanks a lot, we hope you enjoyed it.  It was a journey.  We don’t know when we’re gonna see you again, hopefully not too - not too long in the future.  And uh...like to just say one thing.  To those of you who get what we’re doing and why we’re doing it, keep helping us, keep supporting us.  To those of you out there who don’t understand, who don’t get it, who probably won’t ever get it, and certainly to those of you out there in...world land....  Heh heh heh, world land, you know, the world out there, the world land.  Heh heh.  You know, sometimes I talk to fans and...they’re all over me ‘cause I didn’t play this song or that song and I got my first blowjob to this song and you know, why didn’t you play it?  All I gotta say is...they’re ''my'' fuckin’ songs, heh, I’ll play ‘em if I wanna ''fuckin’'' play 'em.  Sometimes people forget I wrote these fuckin’ songs, you know, I love these songs.  They act like somebody else wrote these fuckin’ songs, you know what I mean?  Who the fuck wrote ‘em?, I wrote ‘em.  Most of 'em, heh heh heh.  98 point seven percent.  But my point is is not to be crass or rude, my point is is that, we love our songs, we love our band.  We’re not a fuckin’ jukebox though, you know.  It’s a great honor, it’s a great honor to play for you, we take it really seriously, we really do, we really do.  So Mr. Blogger, ''(laughing)'' Mr., Mr. uh, what’s uh, [[w:The_Lord_of_the_Rings|Lord of the Rings]] 27, heh heh heh....  My point is is, you know, don’t disconnect us from who we are, you know, don’t try to separate us out and say “Well, they were once this and they were once that then and now they’re something different.”  We’re the fuckin’ same.  The same.  We’ve never changed, we's all - we’ve always been the same.  We’ve always been a pain in your ass and we always will be a pain in your fuckin’ ass.  You’ve been a great crowd, thank you, thank you.  ''(faux offended voice)'' And now we’re gonna play one of my songs, okay?  ''(normal voice)'' Heh heh heh.  This song is uh, it’s an adapted song from 1990, it’s called I Am One Part 2.
'''I Am One Pt. 2'''
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According to Metacritic, the album received generally favorable reviews, scoring 66 out of 100 based on 15 reviews. Jim DeRogatis of the ''Chicago Sun-Times'' called ''Machina'' "an exceedingly impressive and hard-driving record"<ref name="derogatis">{{cite news |url=https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4537673.html |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180522111741/https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4537673.html |url-status=dead |archive-date=May 22, 2018 |title=Smashing Pumpkins Reclaiming Rock Glory |work=[[w:Chicago Sun-Times|Chicago Sun-Times]] |date=February 29, 2000 |accessdate=October 17, 2016 |last=DeRogatis |first=Jim |authorlink=w:Jim DeRogatis |url-access=subscription}}</ref> and contended that it was the band's "masterpiece."<ref>[[w:Jim DeRogatis|DeRogatis, Jim]]. "Pumpkins Return in Force." ''[[w:Chicago Sun-Times|Chicago Sun-Times]]''. December 20, 1999.</ref> "''Machina'' finds the quartet back at their grunge-rocking best…" wrote Clark Collis in ''The Daily Telegraph''. "[Corgan] seems re-energised as a writer and singer with the likes of 'Stand Inside Your Love' and 'Try Try Try' standing among their best work to date, while the lyrical refrain of the epic 'Glass and the Ghost Children' should please all those who like their rock music to be mean, moody and not a little psychotic."<ref>''[[w:The Daily Telegraph|The Daily Telegraph]]'', February 26, 2000</ref>
== Track listing ==
{{Track listing
| headline = Main release | main_listing = yes | listing_id = 1
| all_writing = Billy Corgan
| title1 = [[The Everlasting Gaze]]
| length1 = 4:00
| title2 = [[Raindrops + Sunshowers]]
| length2 = 4:39
| title3 = [[Stand Inside Your Love]]
| length3 = 4:14
| title4 = [[I of the Mourning]]
| length4 = 4:37
| title5 = [[The Sacred and Profane]]
| length5 = 4:22
| title6 = [[Try, Try, Try]]
| length6 = 5:09
| title7 = [[Heavy Metal Machine]]
| length7 = 5:52
| title8 = [[This Time]]
| length8 = 4:43
| title9 = [[The Imploding Voice]]
| length9 = 4:24
| title10 = [[Glass and the Ghost Children]]
| length10 = 9:56
| title11 = [[Wound]]
| length11 = 3:58
| title12 = [[The Crying Tree of Mercury]]
| length12 = 3:43
| title13 = [[With Every Light]]
| length13 = 3:56
| title14 = [[Blue Skies Bring Tears]]
| length14 = 5:45
| title15 = [[Age of Innocence]]
| length15 = 3:55
}}
{{Track listing
| headline = Vinyl, Japanese CD | listing_id = 2
| title1 = [[The Everlasting Gaze]]
| length1 = 4:00
| title2 = [[Raindrops + Sunshowers]]
| length2 = 4:39
| title3 = [[Stand Inside Your Love]]
| length3 = 4:14
| title4 = [[I of the Mourning]]
| length4 = 4:37
| title5 = [[The Sacred and Profane]]
| length5 = 4:22
| title6 = [[Try, Try, Try]]
| length6 = 5:09
| title7 = [[Heavy Metal Machine]]
| length7 = 5:52
| title8 = [[This Time]]
| length8 = 4:43
| title9 = [[The Imploding Voice]]
| length9 = 4:24
| title10 = [[Glass and the Ghost Children]]
| length10 = 9:56
| title11 = [[Wound]]
| length11 = 3:58
| title12 = [[The Crying Tree of Mercury]]
| length12 = 3:43
| title13 = [[Speed Kills]]
| length13 = 3:24
| title14 = [[Age of Innocence]]
| length14 = 3:55
| title15 = [[With Every Light]]
| length15 = 3:56
| title16 = [[Blue Skies Bring Tears]]
| length16 = 5:45
}}
'''Notes'''
*"Speed Kills" is not the ''[[Machina II/The Friends & Enemies of Modern Music]]'' version, but the version that appears on the "[[Stand Inside Your Love]]" single truncated by two minutes with a fadeout. The last four tracks are re-sequenced. One [[Machina/The Machines of God (premaster)|early release of the album often referred to as the "premaster"]] has an extended version of "The Sacred and Profane" with two bars of electronic drum beat at the beginning of the song, electric guitar instead of acoustic in "Age of Innocence", "The Crying Tree of Mercury" titled "The Mercury Tree", and a different, more lo-fi mix overall.<ref>{{cite web |title=spfreaks.com/item/machina-the-machines-of-god-171/ |url=http://spfreaks.com/item/machina-the-machines-of-god-171/ |website=SPfreaks |accessdate=3 February 2019}}</ref>
*"Speed Kills" was apparently included because the Japanese arm of Virgin demanded an extra song to keep fans from buying imports.<ref>Billy Corgan, October 4, 2020 Instagram Q&A</ref>
== Release history ==
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{{release|released=February 28, 2000|label=Virgin|catalog_id=VJCP-68165|format=CD|country=Japan|discogs=2434115|musicbrainz=b98e6cf3-9567-469c-8489-72021b3b9ad4|listing_id=2}}
{{release|released=May 2000|label=Virgin, Hut Recordings|catalog_id=7243 8 48936 1 3, HUTDLP 59|format=2LP|country=Europe|discogs=1433261|musicbrainz=8d822a5b-8faf-4b75-8db6-39aae659c2cd|listing_id=2}}
{{releases bottom}}
== Personnel ==
{{div col}}
'''Band'''
* [[Billy Corgan]] – vocals, guitar, bass guitar, keyboards, piano, production, art direction, mixing, lead guitar
* [[James Iha]] – guitar, bass guitar<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.spin.com/2018/02/billy-corgan-smashing-pumpkins-bassist-rumors-darcy-wretzky/|first=Ariella|last=Gordon|title=Billy Corgan Refuses to Say D’arcy Wretzky’s Name in Latest Smashing Pumpkins Update|website=Spin}}</ref>
* [[D'arcy Wretzky]] – bass guitar
* [[Jimmy Chamberlin]] – drums
'''Additional musicians'''
*[[Mike Garson]] – piano on "With Every Light"
'''Production'''
* Bill Douglass – mixing assistance
*[[Flood]] – production, mixing
*[[W:Vasily Kafanov|Vasily Kafanov]] – sleeve paintings and etchings
* Tommy Lipnick – technical assistance
* Tim "Gooch" Lougee – technical assistance
* Jef Moll – mixing assistance
*[[Alan Moulder]] – mixing
* Andrew Nicholls – mixing assistance
* Erin Piepergerdes – mixing assistance
* Scott Schimpff – technical assistance
* Greg Sylvester – art direction
*[[W:Bjorn Thorsrud|Bjorn Thorsrud]] – recording, mixing, digital editing, compilation, additional programming
*[[Howie Weinberg]] – mastering
* Howard C. Willing – recording, mixing
* Thomas Wolfe – art direction
*[[W:Yelena Yemchuk|Yelena Yemchuk]] – art direction
* Mike Zainer – mixing assistant
{{div col end}}
== Charts ==
'''Album'''
{| class="wikitable"
! Year
! Chart
! Position
|-
| rowspan="8"|2000
{{albumchart|Australia|2|artist=The Smashing Pumpkins|album=MACHINA - THE MACHINES OF GOD}}
|-
| Top Canadian Albums{{Citation needed}}
| align="center"|2
|-
{{albumchart|Billboard200|3|artist=The Smashing Pumpkins|album=Machina/The Machines of God}}
|-
{{albumchart|Germany|4|artist=The Smashing Pumpkins|album=Machina/The Machines of God}}
|-
{{albumchart|New Zealand|4|artist=The Smashing Pumpkins|album=Machina - The Machines of God}}
|-
{{albumchart|UK|7|artist=Smashing Pumpkins|album=Machina/The Machines of God}}
|-
{{albumchart|France|4|artist=The Smashing Pumpkins|album=Machina - The Machines of God}}
|-
{{albumchart|Sweden|3|artist=The Smashing Pumpkins|album=Machina - The Machines of God}}
|}
'''Singles'''
{| class="wikitable"
! Year
! Single
! Chart
! Position
|-
| rowspan="2"|1999
| rowspan="2"|"[[The Everlasting Gaze]]"
{{singlechart|Billboardalternativesongs|4|artist=The Smashing Pumpkins|song=The Everlasting Gaze}}
|-
{{singlechart|Billboardmainstreamrock|4|artist=The Smashing Pumpkins|album=The Everlasting Gaze}}
|-
| rowspan="5"|2000
| rowspan="5"|"[[Stand Inside Your Love]]"
{{singlechart|Billboardalternativesongs|2|artist=The Smashing Pumpkins|song=Stand Inside Your Love}}
|-
{{singlechart|Billboardmainstreamrock|11|artist=The Smashing Pumpkins|song=Stand Inside Your Love}}
|-
{{singlechart|UKsinglesbyname|23|artist=Smashing Pumpkins|song=Stand Inside Your Love|artistid=28056}}
|-
{{singlechart|Australia|31|artist=The Smashing Pumpkins|song=Stand Inside Your Love}}
|-
{{singlechart|UKsinglesbyname|73|artist=Smashing Pumpkins|song=Try, Try, Try|artistid=28056}}
|}
==Reissue==
The album is scheduled to be reissued, this time resequenced as a double album with the ''Machina II'' material as was originally envisioned. The original co-producer Flood will be involved with a complete remix of all the material and sequencing into its original order as a two-disc concept album.<ref>"[https://archive.today/20120731032804/http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/features/32345/Smashing-Pumpkins-Ill-have-the-last-laugh?page=4 Smashing Pumpkins: "I'll have the last laugh"]". FasterLouder.com. April 26, 2012.</ref> He further explained that part of the restored concept album will be a suite simulating a live Machines of God concert, possibly with crowd noise added, with a mix inspired by [[W:Kiss (band)|Kiss]]' ''[[W:Alive! (Kiss album)|Alive!]]''.<ref>Graham, Adam. "[http://blogs.detroitnews.com/poptropolis/2012/10/21/the-smashing-pumpkins-billy-corgan-on-the-past-the-present-the-future-and-mayonaise/ The Smashing Pumpkins' Billy Corgan on the past, the present, the future and 'Mayonaise'] {{webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121023062524/http://blogs.detroitnews.com/poptropolis/2012/10/21/the-smashing-pumpkins-billy-corgan-on-the-past-the-present-the-future-and-mayonaise/ |date=2012-10-23 }}". Detroit News. October 21, 2012.</ref>
From July 2015, the reissue's release was put on permanent hold due to legal troubles with the record label. Corgan has said he has spent a lot of time on this and wants it to be released, but the legal issues need to be resolved first.<ref>"http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/23/smashing-pumpkins-billy-corgan-tour-interview"</ref> In August 2018, Billy answered an Instagram Q&A about this. The question was "Will the Machina reissue ever see the light of day?" He answered "Just signed legal settlement today on that. So yes". Corgan announced in later Q&A's that the reissue will feature completely new artwork and will not reuse any of the original ''Machina'' artwork.
==Certifications and sales==
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{{certification Table Entry|relyear=2000|region=Australia|type=album|award=Gold|certyear=2000|accessdate=17 April 2019}}
{{certification Table Entry|title=Machina/The Machines Of God|type=album|artist=Smashing Pumpkins|relyear=2000|region=Canada|award=Platinum|certyear=2000|accessdate=17 April 2019}}
{{certification Table Entry|title=Machina/The Machines Of God|type=album|artist=Smashing Pumpkins|relyear=2000|region=New Zealand|award=Gold|certyear=2000|certref=<ref>{{cite web| url=http://www.rianz.org.nz/rianz/chart.asp?chartNum=1200&chartKind=A&format=print| title=RIANZ| publisher=RIANZ| accessdate=17 April 2019| archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110927161843/http://www.rianz.org.nz/rianz/chart.asp?chartNum=1200&chartKind=A&format=print| archive-date=27 September 2011| url-status=dead}}</ref>}}
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November 25, 2008 – Kansas City, MO, US
Live performance by The Smashing Pumpkins
20th Anniversary tour
DateNovember 25, 2008
VenueMidland Theatre
Coordinates39°5′56″N 94°35′1″W
LocationKansas City, MO, US
Venue typeTheater
Capacity3,573
PersonnelBilly Corgan, Jimmy Chamberlin, Jeff Schroeder, Ginger Pooley, Lisa Harriton, Kristopher Pooley, Gingger Shankar, Stephen Bradley, Gabrial McNair
Order of bandsThe Smashing Pumpkins
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Setlist

  1. "Ava Adore" 
  2. "Cupid de Locke" 
  3. "1979" 
  4. "99 Floors" 
  5. "Owata" 
  6. "Sunkissed" 
  7. "Soma" 
  8. "Cherub Rock" 
  9. "Zero" 
  10. "Bodies" 
  11. "Crestfallen" 
  12. "I of the Mourning" 
  13. "A Song for a Son" 
  14. "Like to Get to Know You" [Spanky and Our Gang] (tease) 
  15. "Rock On" [David Essex] (tease) 
  16. "Only Wanna Be With You" [Hootie & the Blowfish] (tease) 
    1. (improv: "Good Times")
  17. "Geek U.S.A." (tease) 
  18. "I Am One" (tease) 
  19. "Thirty-Three" (tease) 
  20. "Smells Like Teen Spirit" [Nirvana] (tease) 
  21. "Landslide" [Stevie Nicks] 
  22. "Disarm" 
  23. "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness" 
  24. "Galapogos" 
  25. "Gossamer" 
  26. "As Rome Burns" 
  27. "The Sounds of Silence" [Paul Simon] 
    1. "Li'l Red Riding Hood" [Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs] 
  28. "The March Hare" 
    1. "Suffer" (middle section only) 
  29. "Age of Innocence" 

Encore

  1. "That's the Way (My Love Is)" 
  2. "I Am One Part II" 

Notes

  • "99 Floors", "Owata", "Sunkissed", "Landslide", "Disarm", and "That's the Way (My Love Is)" performed acoustic

Banter

2008 Intro
Ava Adore
BC: Yeaaah, that’s right. That’s right.
Cupid de Locke
(BC over remaining instrumental after lyrics finish: Good evening, everybody! Welcome to our show. Thank you very much, thank you. Thank you, thank you, welcome to the show. Welcome to the show.)
1979
BC: Thank you very much, thank you.
99 Floors (acoustic)
Owata (acoustic)
Sunkissed (acoustic)
Soma
BC: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, thank you. Thank you. You recognize that one, that’s a good thing. No. We love you too, whoever’s yelling that...up there, we hear you. That’s right. Heh heh. Thank you for coming tonight. I’m still a little under the weather so we’re trying to just slow it down a little bit...just take it down a second. Gonna get wild later. Heh heh heh heh heh. What is this called anymore, oh, it’s a concert, that’s right. Exactly, town hall meeting. Heh, exactly. Is this a red state or a blue state?, I can’t remember. (crowd yelling "Blue!") A boo state?, a heh heh heh. Isn’t this a red state? Who’s - who’s a red state? Who pretends they’re not a red state but they really are? There you go, heh, I knew you were out there. (laughing/coughing) Ah, you make me laugh. Okay, like to play you one you also know or you should know. It’s a rare moment of familiarity, enjoy it, it won’t last. We're gonna do our jazz set tonight, heh heh heh. Wanna show you who we really are, heh heh heh. (Billy claps on mic and audience follows) That’s right, that’s right. There you go. If you clap, we actually play, yeah.
Cherub Rock
> Zero
> Bodies
Crestfallen
I of the Mourning
A Song for a Son
BC: Thank you, thank you. ... That was a new song. Yeah, you remember new songs, me too. Heh, the old days. How you doin’, you okay? Yeah. That was overwhelming, your response, heh heh heh.
Guy in crowd: How are you doing?!
BC: That’s not cheering me, how are you doing? Ehhh. Economy got you down, what’s the deal? T-shirt prices too high, what’s going on? What’s up with what? The price of the T-shirts? Yeah. It’s not - it’s not uh, it’s, heroin expense, a hair - heroin addiction is expensive. It’s not easy buying all that dope. Adds up. You have to buy the Maserati and then you have to get the dope. Then you have to put in your free Radiohead CD...and um, yeah. Isn’t that funny, you cheered more for Radiohead than you did for your own “How are you doin’?” That’s the state of the world right there...right? That’s the world we live in. Heh heh heh. How you doin’ up there, couple? Yeah. You guys gettin' married? Are you married? They just know how to do this, they don’t know how to say anything, heh heh. That’s love today, Jeff. Just inarticulate kinda “urrr.” So I’m just trying to catch my breath, I’ve been - I’ve had a cold for about 10 days as I’m sure you can tell. I’m just trying to catch my breath, I’m trying to get to know you more. I wanna get to know you.
Like to Get to Know You (tease)
BC: (singing) I’d like to get to know you, yes I will.
Guy in crowd: It was the gnome!
BC: Exactly, heh heh heh. Yeah, that’s right.
Guy in crowd: I wanna go to the star ship!
BC: You wanna fuck who, what? It’s what it always sounds like when the guy yells (imitating noise he hears on stage). Heh heh.
Guy in crowd: Fuck that shit!
BC: Exactly. Let’s all take a deep breath. (inhales, exhales)
Guy in crowd: Rock on!!!
BC: Rock on, I know.
Rock On (tease - Jeff quietly plays a few notes)
BC: Rock On, see? Rock on: number one, Radiohead: number two, how you doin’: number three.
Jeff: And you don't even know [unintelligible].
BC: We could just jam. Do a little Hootie.
Only Wanna Be With You (tease - instrumental, Billy sings improv lyrics over it)
BC: (singing) Good times...good friends...good lovin’...is all I want. (stops playing guitar and speaks) Yeah, good times. That’s what we’re about, good times. Actually uh, this man over here who was complaining about the T-shirt prices, he didn’t see the booth with the other T-shirts, where we had the Smashing Pumpkins Good Times T-shirt, those are 100 bucks. You gotta pay to wear that shit.
Guy in crowd: Come on!!
BC: (whiny voice) “Come on, man, I’ve got somewhere to go, dude, come on. Hurry up. This is bogus. I didn’t come here to hear you talk or play the fuckin’ kazoo, come on. Come on. Hurry up, man, I’ve gotta go home and beat my woman, hurry up. The fuckin’ Jayhawks are on a delay, man, come on.” (crowd boos loudly) Whatever. Whatever, does anyone care about college anymore? I didn’t go to college, look at me! An American success story, that's right. Just like Ayn Rand wrote about, a man of his own destiny, destroying everything in his path. Bands, relationships, friends, (makes Godzilla type noise, then explosion noise). Here’s another song: Good times.... (plays Only Wanna Be With You riff again briefly, Jeff joins in and continues) That’s what I do, that’s what I do: cause a lot of pain and then write about the good times. This is my friend over here, Mr. Jeff Schroeder. (Jeff stops playing) When I need some good times, I’m thinkin’ Jeff. (Jeff plays first 3 chords again) Hahahaha! That’s it, good times, you gotta play that. (Jeff plays first two chords) Yeah, you need the good time, eh, heh heh heh.
Guy in crowd: Freebird!
BC: Freebird? Oh, that’s original. (stoner voice) “No, man, I was the first guy to say it. (normal voice) It is my shit.” Actually, you know, in the ‘90s, we got that a lot, “Freebird,” that was sort of trendy to yell at a concert. I had the ultimate Freebird - when the guy would yell “Freebird,” I had the ultimate joke: “I’ve got your Freebird right here.” It works, every time: “I’ve got your Freebird right here.” That’s the end of the Freebirds.
Guy in crowd: Geek U.S.A.!
Jeff: Right on.
BC: Yeah, Geek U.S.A. on acoustic, Jeff, let’s do it. Let’s give the people what they want for a change.
Geek U.S.A. (tease - Jeff and Billy jam on it for about 15 seconds)
BC: Then you gotta go...(demonstrates two chords). Gotta get the good time in there. Geek U.S.A., there you go. We'll play all your requests, keep 'em coming, what else d'you wanna hear? I Am One?, okay.
I Am One (tease - Billy and Jeff jam for about 20 seconds)
BC: (over guitar) Good times. (singing) I am one, good times, good times. (tease ends) (speaking) I need my fuckin’ goatee and hacky sack and I'm good. Yeah, man. Okay, what else d'you wanna hear?, keep 'em comin’. Thirty-three?, okay.
Thirty-three (tease - Billy doodles with the guitar part for about 8 seconds)
BC: Good times, heh heh. Ahhh, ah, oh yeah, yeah. Hey, I’d rather do this than what I was gonna do. Yeah. Smells Like Teen Spirit, that was a big hit for us.
Smells Like Teen Spirit (tease - Billy and Jeff play the main riff for about 10 seconds)
BC: That was a big hit for me. That’s what really took us to another - to another level. Yeah. Karma Police, that was another one. Then of course, there was our cover of Mrs. Robinson, that just - stratosphere, right to the top. A heh heh. Hey, I’m havin’ a good time, let’s go. (dumb guy voice) “I can’t believe he just stood there for a fuckin’ hour, man, it was fuckin’ bullshit. Fuckin’ bullshit, I didn’t pay for that fuckin’ bullshit. I’m never going to see them ever again. Unless James and D’arcy come back, but then it'll still suck anyway, bullshit. ... Although it was cool they did tease I Am One, but it was still bullshit.” (normal voice) Yeah. Yeah. I’m with ya, I’m with ya. I’m with ya every second of every day, I’m with ya right here. Heh heh. Doomsday Clock? No, nobody knows that one. Yeah, one - one time we were playing in Germany about, was about nine months ago.... Can I tell a story or you want me to just keep jammin'? Good times, alright, back to the good times. (starts playing the Hootie riff again) (singing) So I was in Germany.... (stops playing and speaks) And I asked the crowd, of course in German, ‘cause I’m fluent, um....
Guy in crowd: Yeah, you could do it!
BC: Exactly, and I asked the crowd, I said, uh, “You know, we have a new album out,” and I think we were playing to about three thousand people, right? (re size of crowd, he's thinking 2008-02-22 but the moment he talks about was on 2008-02-23) And I said, “We have a new album out and I’d like to know how many people actually have the album,” and I think about only...like about a fifth of the crowd raised their hand, raised their hand, which is, that’s understandable. Then I said, “How many of you actually know we have a new album out?” And only a third of the crowd raised their hand.
Jeff: Yeah, that was the - that was the trick.
BC: That was the trick, right. Yeah, we have a new album out, it’s called Zeitgeist. Came out in uh...’bout July 10th, 2007. And as you know, it was the reason Obama got elected. Hidden fact, hidden fact no one knows. (dumb guy voice) “I didn’t come here to see him fuckin’ talk, man. It was fuckin' bullshit.” (normal voice) Laser124. Straight876 replied...(dumb guy voice) “I saw the Pumpkins in 1992 when they were good, man. Billy didn’t talk back then, it was better.” (normal voice) Heh heh heh. You know what it is? I had to take some medicine for this fuckin' cold and I think I think I’m totally buzzed, heh heh. That’s what it is. Yeah, because, because I’m actually in a happy mood and I’m enjoying having some rapport with you. And this is n - this is unusual because usually I hate the audience and uh...despise everything they represent so this is really different. I’m seeing the world with different eyes. Laser627 eyes. Here, let’s do a little Storyteller, so anyway... One time we were playing on Saturday Night Live, remember that show? Yeah, we were playing on Saturday Night Live and it was right before Halloween. I think we were playing like October 30th or something.
Jeff: Awesome, awesome.
BC: And so, we’re - we were actually playing I believe Cherub Rock in rehearsal and all of a sudden, these lumbering techs brought out all these pumpkins...
Jeff: Aw.
BC: ...‘cause they were gonna dress the set...with pumpkins.
Jeff: Creative, creative, creative.
BC: And I had to pull the guy over and go, “No pumpkins.” And he was like, “Why?, it’s Halloween.” I’m like...“We don’t do pumpkins, pumpkins, Smashing Pumpkins, we don’t do pumpkins, we don’t - it’s not like a thing with us. Or it is a thing with us, we don’t do pumpkins.” And the guy goes, “Yeah, but it’s Halloween, we’re still gonna - we were gonna put ‘em up there if it was Bruce Springsteen.” And I said, “I don’t give a fuck what The Boss is gonna do."
Jeff: Exactly.
BC: "We don’t do pumpkins.” And I had to get in a fight to get the pumpkins removed.
Jeff: Oh, that’s why you had the black eye that night.
BC: Huh?
Jeff: That's why you had a black eye that night.
BC: No.
Jeff: No, you didn't?
BC: Go with it. (Jeff laughs) Yeah, black eye. So if you watch the Youtube footage of us playing, you won’t see any pumpkins. This is a big moment for me to actually stand on stage with a pumpkin. 20 years it took me to give in. And as you see, it’s done a lot for the business. Okay, back to the show. Thank you, we hope you’re havin' a good time. Now that I’ve caught my breath, we could get back to the hit cavalcade. Many, many hits to go. Let me count. One, two...three, heh heh heh. Cavalcade. Damn. This next song, which uh, apparently the way this show is going will be our last song, um.... If I told you it was about the Jayhawks, would it be the last song? Exactly. I'm just trying to trick you to get me off the stage. I gotta get to my dope. Uh, heh heh heh heh heh. There you go, oops, sorry about that. Uh, heh heh heh. Anyway, people of Earth, I didn’t write this next song, it was written by Ms. Stevie Nicks, I think you know her. And these uh...it was ruined by those horrible, ugly Dixie Chicks. It’s like they came up out of Middle Earth and recorded this song, the Dixie Chicks. Put some sort of troll wizard spell on the song. So it’s hard to let go of the Dixie Chicks but let’s just go back, go back to a simpler time. You remember 1994? Yeah. Let’s check the list: you liked music...you bought CDs...yeah, the bands were good...good times. (Jeff plays the first chord again, he and Billy laugh as Billy starts Landslide)
Landslide (Billy/Jeff acoustic)
Disarm (acoustic)
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
> Galapogos
Gossamer
As Rome Burns
The Sounds of Silence
> Li’l Red Riding Hood
The March Hare
> Suffer (partial)
> The March Hare
(BC during quiet part before final part of outro: (whispering) Take it down, take it down, take it down, take it down, Lower, lower, lower, shhh. Shhhhhh. [2 unintelligible words] Chicago Sound Machine.)
Age of Innocence
(BC before bridge: Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, that is the end of the show! Thank you very much for comin' tonight! On behalf of the mighty SP, we say thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Now all of us up here ask for one last favor, one last thing, one small thing, just want you to put your hands together like this. There you go, beautiful. (singing) Before the rites of spring...)
(BC immediately after lyrics finish: Thank you very much, thank you!)
[encore break]
That’s the Way (acoustic)
BC: Thank you very much, thank you. Thanks a lot. Before we go, before we go, like to say K.C. for hosting one of our two night extravaganzas [sic]. For those of you that came both nights, thanks a lot, thanks a lot, we hope you enjoyed it. It was a journey. We don’t know when we’re gonna see you again, hopefully not too - not too long in the future. And uh...like to just say one thing. To those of you who get what we’re doing and why we’re doing it, keep helping us, keep supporting us. To those of you out there who don’t understand, who don’t get it, who probably won’t ever get it, and certainly to those of you out there in...world land.... Heh heh heh, world land, you know, the world out there, the world land. Heh heh. You know, sometimes I talk to fans and...they’re all over me ‘cause I didn’t play this song or that song and I got my first blowjob to this song and you know, why didn’t you play it? All I gotta say is...they’re my fuckin’ songs, heh, I’ll play ‘em if I wanna fuckin’ play 'em. Sometimes people forget I wrote these fuckin’ songs, you know, I love these songs. They act like somebody else wrote these fuckin’ songs, you know what I mean? Who the fuck wrote ‘em?, I wrote ‘em. Most of 'em, heh heh heh. 98 point seven percent. But my point is is not to be crass or rude, my point is is that, we love our songs, we love our band. We’re not a fuckin’ jukebox though, you know. It’s a great honor, it’s a great honor to play for you, we take it really seriously, we really do, we really do. So Mr. Blogger, (laughing) Mr., Mr. uh, what’s uh, Lord of the Rings 27, heh heh heh.... My point is is, you know, don’t disconnect us from who we are, you know, don’t try to separate us out and say “Well, they were once this and they were once that then and now they’re something different.” We’re the fuckin’ same. The same. We’ve never changed, we's all - we’ve always been the same. We’ve always been a pain in your ass and we always will be a pain in your fuckin’ ass. You’ve been a great crowd, thank you, thank you. (faux offended voice) And now we’re gonna play one of my songs, okay? (normal voice) Heh heh heh. This song is uh, it’s an adapted song from 1990, it’s called I Am One Part 2.
I Am One Pt. 2

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