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February 19, 2008 – Brussels, BE
Live performance by The Smashing Pumpkins
Europe 2008 tour
Date	February 19, 2008
Venue	Vorst Nationaal
Coordinates	50°48′35″N 4°19′34″E
Location	Brussels, BE
Venue type	Arena
Capacity	7,000
Personnel	Billy Corgan, Jimmy Chamberlin, Jeff Schroeder, Ginger Pooley, Lisa Harriton
Order of bands	Tim Vanhamel, The Smashing Pumpkins
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Setlist

Notes

"Perfect", "1979", and "That's the Way (My Love Is)" performed acoustic

Banter

Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
> Behold! The Night Mare
> Bring the Light
(Lisa (accidentally?) plays one synthesizer note for 5 seconds)
Lisa: Just checkin’ to see if you’re awake.
Tonight, Tonight
Mayonaise
Try, Try, Try
> Superchrist
> (Come On) Let’s Go!
Stellar
(BC over opening drums: Good evening, thank you very much! Welcome to our show, we hope you have a good time. That’s it. There’s nothing else.)
BC: Like to introduce Mr. Jimmy Chamberlin. Jimmy Chamberlin. Heh, James Joseph Chamberlin, heh.
Perfect (Billy acoustic w/Jimmy tambourine)
Lily
(BC after “goodbye” at end: And good riddance.)
BC: Thank you very much, thank you. We recently released a uh, recently released an EP of four songs called American Gothic. I can tell by your response that you all ran out and got it immediately. That’s the kind of fans we have. They usually wait about 10 years to decide they like what we put out so...you got about nine years and 10 months to go but you’ll like this song...someday. Exactly. I’m waiting. This is a song called The Rose March.
The Rose March
Today
> Tarantula
> Stand Inside Your Love
> Ava Adore
BC: Alright! That’s the end of the concert, thank you very much. Peace. Peace out. Well, we - I’ve had my problems in Brussels. Heh heh. There was that time I couldn’t sing and everyone booed at me, remember that one? That was a good one. Yeah. Who was there? You were booing, weren’t you? You were booing at me, fuck you, fuck you for booing at me. See? Then they boo again. I’m just kidding, it’s a joke, it’s a joke, hello, it’s a joke. I don’t care that you booed, I’m used to being booed, it’s not a big deal. Sorry about that. For those of you that were at that show, sorry, I’m sure I’ve apologized like seven times now but I’m apologizing again. Sorry about that. Then of course, Jimmy, there was my solo show in Ghent. Yes. My sparsely attended solo show, where I dared - dared to question a member of the audience. Yes. We all know that the audience is always right and the performer is always wrong, I learned that now. I am merely your servant to please you, to entertain you, to make you come, whatever you need, I am here for you. Heh, Sergeant Jeff. Sergeant Jeff will referee all disputes. Who was at that solo show in Ghent? Yeah. Yes. You know, it was a good speech, I thought.
Jeff: Do you remember it?
BC: I said that I would return to Belgium with the Smashing Pumpkins and I have returned with the Smashing Pumpkins. What’s the big deal? It’s not our fault that you eat 23 pounds of chocolate per person a year. It’s not a - it’s not our problem that you think you’re better than the rest of Europe. It’s not our problem that the EU is based out of Belgium, it’s not our problem. Am I right about that? What does this all mean? I don’t know! I don’t know.
Jeff: (off mic) Heh heh, [unintelligible but sounds like “caught in the rain.”]
BC: Heh haha. What does this have to do with rock and roll? - it has everything to do with rock and roll! Okay, heh heh heh. Once again, I’ll get a bad review for freaking out. “He freaked out again in Belgium, he freaked out. He just went crazy. He went insane. He threw his guitar, he punched Jeff...he humiliated Ginger.” Well, that’s a good thing. They like that.
Ginger: (off mic) I know, I do too.
BC: It’s a misogynist type of thing here. Anyway, this is an old song. Like to send this out to all our old fans. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you very much, god bless everybody here. Thank you.
Drown
> Bullet with Butterfly Wings
1979 (Billy solo acoustic)
That’s the Way (Billy acoustic w/Lisa)
My Blue Heaven (Billy w/Lisa)
The Everlasting Gaze
> Cash Car Star
> Easy Livin’ (2 verses and choruses)
> Foreplay (partial, instrumental)
> For What It’s Worth (verse 1, chorus, verse 4, chorus, BC original spoken verse)
(BC spoken verse: Everyone’s gonna be a big star / Everyone’s gonna know who you are / Even your mother’s gonna love you / When you grow gold / They won’t leave you out in the cold / Heh, invite you in for tea ... Everything’s just getting better and better and brighter and lighter or whiter and pure. Awww, it’s so beautiful. It’s so beautiful. It’s so beautiful! It’s so beautiful!!!!)
> Wasted Years (tease/intro only)
Daydream
> Wound
> United States / Star Spangled Banner
(BC over outro feedback: Thank you.)
[encore break]
Lips Like Sugar
(BC over outro jam: Thank you very much. We are the Smashing Pumpkins. Forever and ever. In your dreams, in your nightmares. In your Care Bears, we’re everywhere.)

Photos and memorabilia

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-{{Social media
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-|subjects=For The Masses
+| artist = The Smashing Pumpkins
-|type=album
+| date = February 19, 2008
-|original_date=1998-08-04
+| venue = [[w:Vorst Nationaal|Vorst Nationaal]]
-|hour_of_day=15
+| location = Brussels, BE
-|needs_review=No
+| venue_type = Arena
+| lat = 50.80984
+| lng = 4.326242
+| capacity = 7000
+| lineup = Billy Corgan, Jimmy Chamberlin, Jeff Schroeder, Ginger Pooley, Lisa Harriton
+| bands = Tim Vanhamel, The Smashing Pumpkins
+| tour = Europe 2008
 }}
-{{Social media/Instagram|For the Masses released August 4, 1998! It is a tribute album to Depeche Mode. The opening track is The Smashing Pumpkins cover of "Never Let Me Down Again", which was originally released as a B-side on the "Rocket" single. It was also released on the Siamese Singles box set, and on the 2011 deluxe reissue of Siamese Dream.
-This cover was by request of bassist D'arcy Wretzky who is a long-time Depeche Mode fan. It was recorded at BBC Radio One on September 12, 1993 – the same session where "Landslide" was recorded, and Billy Corgan finished writing "Bullet with Butterfly Wings". "Never Let Me Down Again" was perhaps recorded in one take.
+== Setlist ==
-"Never Let Me Down Again" was occasionally performed live by The Pumpkins during 1994's Rock Invasion tour, and at the Double Door charity shows in February 1995. In 1998 following the release of For the Masses, Corgan joined Depeche Mode to perform it at the KROQ Almost Acoustic Christmas show. The song wouldn't be performed again until twenty years later at The Smashing Pumpkins' 30th Anniversary Series shows in late 2018.
+=== Soundcheck ===
+# {{live song|Lips Like Sugar|cover=[[w:Echo & the Bunnymen|Echo & the Bunnymen]]|soundcheck=1}}
-For the Masses peaked at #69 on the Billboard 200 and reached the Top 20 in Germany, making it the most successful Depeche Mode tribute album of all time. It received mixed critical reviews, but The Smashing Pumpkins' cover was noted as a highlight. AllMusic wrote that Depeche Mode songs are "difficult to cover without replicating the original arrangements" and that only a few bands succeeded in making the songs their own, singling out The Smashing Pumpkins, The Cure, GusGus, and Rammstein. NME similarly states that this tribute album is "not about investigating Depeche Mode's legacy, but massaging swollen egos". The Smashing Pumpkins and The Cure are commended for attempting something different while the rest of the entries fail in adding their own twist to the songs and are hoping for "some controversy-free exposure".
+=== Set ===
+# {{live song|Porcelina of the Vast Oceans}}
+## {{live song|Behold! the Night Mare}}
+# {{live song|Bring the Light}}
+# {{live song|Tonight, Tonight}}
+# {{live song|Mayonaise}}
+# {{live song|Try, Try, Try}}
+# {{live song|Superchrist}}
+## {{live song|(Come On) Let's Go!}}
+# {{live song|Stellar}}
+# {{live song|Perfect}}
+# {{live song|Lily (My One and Only)}}
+# {{live song|The Rose March}}
+# {{live song|Today}}
+# {{live song|Tarantula}}
+# {{live song|Stand Inside Your Love}}
+# {{live song|Ava Adore}}
+# {{live song|Drown}}
+## {{live song|Bullet with Butterfly Wings}}
+# {{live song|1979}}
+# {{live song|That's the Way (My Love Is)}}
+# {{live song|My Blue Heaven|cover=[[w:Walter Donaldson|Walter Donaldson]] / [[w:George A. Whiting|George A. Whiting]]}}
+# {{live song|The Everlasting Gaze}}
+# {{live song|Cash Car Star|note=Version 1}}
+## {{live song|Easy Livin'|tease=1|cover=[[w:Uriah Heep (band)|Uriah Heep]]}}
+## {{live song|Foreplay|tease=1|cover=[[w:Boston (band)|Boston]]}}
+## {{live song|For What It's Worth|tease=1|cover=[[w:Buffalo Springfield|Buffalo Springfield]]}}
+## {{live song|Wasted Years|tease=1|cover=[[w:Iron Maiden|Iron Maiden]]}}
+# {{live song|Daydream}}
+# {{live song|Wound}}
+# {{live song|United States}}
+## {{live song|The Star-Spangled Banner|tease=1|cover=[[w:Francis Scott Key|Francis Scott Key]]}}
-<nowiki>https://spcodex.wiki/wiki/For_the_Masses</nowiki>
+=== Encore ===
-|photo1=https://static.miraheze.org/solarawiki/thumb/a/a3/For_The_Masses.jpg/450px-For_The_Masses.jpg
+# {{live song|Lips Like Sugar|cover=[[w:Echo & the Bunnymen|Echo & the Bunnymen]]}}
-|tags1=smashingpumpkins, wpccodex, depechemode
-}}
-{{Social media/Facebook|For the Masses released August 4, 1998! It is a tribute album to Depeche Mode. The opening track is The Smashing Pumpkins cover of "Never Let Me Down Again", which was originally released as a B-side on the "Rocket" single. It was also released on the Siamese Singles box set, and on the 2011 deluxe reissue of Siamese Dream.
-This cover was by request of bassist D'arcy Wretzky who is a long-time Depeche Mode fan. It was recorded at BBC Radio One on September 12, 1993 – the same session where "Landslide" was recorded, and Billy Corgan finished writing "Bullet with Butterfly Wings". "Never Let Me Down Again" was perhaps recorded in one take.
+=== Notes ===
-"Never Let Me Down Again" was occasionally performed live by The Pumpkins during 1994's Rock Invasion tour, and at the Double Door charity shows in February 1995. In 1998 following the release of For the Masses, Corgan joined Depeche Mode to perform it at the KROQ Almost Acoustic Christmas show. The song wouldn't be performed again until twenty years later at The Smashing Pumpkins' 30th Anniversary Series shows in late 2018.
+* "Perfect", "1979", and "That's the Way (My Love Is)" performed acoustic
-For the Masses peaked at #69 on the Billboard 200 and reached the Top 20 in Germany, making it the most successful Depeche Mode tribute album of all time. It received mixed critical reviews, but The Smashing Pumpkins' cover was noted as a highlight. AllMusic wrote that Depeche Mode songs are "difficult to cover without replicating the original arrangements" and that only a few bands succeeded in making the songs their own, singling out The Smashing Pumpkins, The Cure, GusGus, and Rammstein. NME similarly states that this tribute album is "not about investigating Depeche Mode's legacy, but massaging swollen egos". The Smashing Pumpkins and The Cure are commended for attempting something different while the rest of the entries fail in adding their own twist to the songs and are hoping for "some controversy-free exposure".
+== Banter ==
-<nowiki>https://spcodex.wiki/wiki/For_the_Masses</nowiki>
+{{banter|1=
+'''Porcelina of the Vast Oceans'''
+> '''Behold! The Night Mare'''
+> '''Bring the Light'''
+''(Lisa (accidentally?) plays one synthesizer note for 5 seconds)''
+Lisa: Just checkin’ to see if you’re awake.
+'''Tonight, Tonight'''
+'''Mayonaise'''
+'''Try, Try, Try'''
+> '''Superchrist'''
+> '''(Come On) Let’s Go!'''
+'''Stellar'''
+(BC over opening drums: Good evening, thank you very much!  Welcome to our show, we hope you have a good time.  That’s it.  There’s nothing else.)
+BC: Like to introduce Mr. Jimmy Chamberlin.  Jimmy Chamberlin.  Heh, James Joseph Chamberlin, heh.
+'''Perfect''' (Billy acoustic w/Jimmy tambourine)
+'''Lily'''
+(BC after “goodbye” at end: And good riddance.)
+BC: Thank you very much, thank you.  We recently released a uh, recently released an EP of four songs called American Gothic.  I can tell by your response that you all ran out and got it immediately.  That’s the kind of fans we have.  They usually wait about 10 years to decide they like what we put out so...you got about nine years and 10 months to go but you’ll like this song...someday.  Exactly.  I’m waiting.  This is a song called The Rose March.
+'''The Rose March'''
+'''Today'''
+> '''Tarantula'''
+> '''Stand Inside Your Love'''
+> '''Ava Adore'''
+BC: Alright!  That’s the end of the concert, thank you very much.  Peace.  Peace out.  Well, we - I’ve had my problems in Brussels.  Heh heh.  [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2000-01-19|There was that time I couldn’t sing and everyone booed at me]], remember that one?  That was a good one.  Yeah.  Who was there?  You were booing, weren’t you?  You were booing at me, fuck you, fuck you for booing at me.  See?  Then they boo again.  I’m just kidding, it’s a joke, it’s a joke, hello, it’s a joke.  I don’t care that you booed, I’m used to being booed, it’s not a big deal.  Sorry about that.  For those of you that were at that show, sorry, I’m sure I’ve apologized like seven times now but I’m apologizing again.  Sorry about that.  Then of course, Jimmy, [[Billy Corgan 2005-06-08|there was my solo show in Ghent]].  Yes.  My sparsely attended solo show, where I dared - dared to question a member of the audience.  Yes.  We all know that the audience is always right and the performer is always wrong, I learned that now.  I am merely your servant to please you, to entertain you, to make you come, whatever you need, I am here for you.  Heh, Sergeant Jeff.  Sergeant Jeff will referee all disputes.  Who was at that solo show in Ghent?  Yeah.  Yes.  You know, it was a good speech, I thought.
+Jeff: Do you remember it?
+BC: I said that I would return to Belgium with the Smashing Pumpkins and I have returned with the Smashing Pumpkins.  What’s the big deal?  It’s not our fault that you eat 23 pounds of chocolate per person a year.  It’s not a - it’s not our problem that you think you’re better than the rest of Europe.  It’s not our problem that the EU is based out of Belgium, it’s not our problem.  Am I right about that?  What does this all mean?  I don’t know!  I don’t know.
+Jeff: ''(off mic)'' Heh heh, [unintelligible but sounds like “caught in the rain.”]
+BC: Heh haha.  What does this have to do with rock and roll? - it has ''everything'' to do with rock and roll!  Okay, heh heh heh.  Once again, I’ll get a bad review for freaking out.  “He freaked out again in Belgium, he freaked out.  He just went crazy.  He went insane.  He threw his guitar, he punched Jeff...he humiliated Ginger.”  Well, that’s a good thing.  They like that.
+Ginger: ''(off mic)'' I know, I do too.
+BC: It’s a misogynist type of thing here.  Anyway, this is an old song.  Like to send this out to all our old fans.  Yeah.  Yeah.  Thank you very much, god bless everybody here.  Thank you.
+'''Drown'''
+> '''Bullet with Butterfly Wings'''
+'''1979''' (Billy solo acoustic)
+'''That’s the Way''' (Billy acoustic w/Lisa)
+'''My Blue Heaven''' (Billy w/Lisa)
+'''The Everlasting Gaze'''
+> '''Cash Car Star'''
+> '''Easy Livin’''' (2 verses and choruses)
+> '''Foreplay''' (partial, instrumental)
+> '''For What It’s Worth''' (verse 1, chorus, verse 4, chorus, BC original spoken verse)
+(BC spoken verse: Everyone’s gonna be a big star / Everyone’s gonna know who you are / Even your mother’s gonna love you / When you grow gold / They won’t leave you out in the cold / Heh, invite you in for tea  ...  Everything’s just getting better and better and brighter and lighter or whiter and pure.  Awww, it’s so beautiful.  It’s so beautiful.  It’s so beautiful!  It’s so beautiful!!!!)
+> '''Wasted Years''' (tease/intro only)
+'''Daydream'''
+> '''Wound'''
+> '''United States / Star Spangled Banner'''
+(BC over outro feedback: Thank you.)
+[encore break]
+'''Lips Like Sugar'''
+(BC over outro jam: Thank you very much.  We are the Smashing Pumpkins.  Forever and ever.  In your dreams, in your nightmares.  In your [[w:Care Bears|Care Bears]], we’re everywhere.)
 }}
-{{Social media/Twitter|Depeche Mode tribute album For the Masses released August 4, 1998! The opening track is SP's cover of "Never Let Me Down Again", which was originally released as a B-side on the "Rocket" single. This cover was by request of bassist D'arcy Wretzky. <nowiki>https://spcodex.wiki/wiki/For_the_Masses</nowiki>
-The song was recorded at BBC Radio One on September 12, 1993 – the same session where "Landslide" was recorded, and Billy Corgan finished writing "Bullet with Butterfly Wings". "Never Let Me Down Again" was perhaps recorded in one take.
-For the Masses peaked at #69 on the Billboard 200 and reached the Top 20 in Germany, making it the most successful Depeche Mode tribute album of all time. It received mixed reviews, but critics singled out The Smashing Pumpkins' cover, praising its original rendition of the song.
+== Photos and memorabilia ==
+{{live show gallery|
+File:Tsp2008-EUTourShirt1 back.jpg
+File:Tsp2008-EUTourShirt2 back.jpg
 }}