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{{infobox live show
| artist = The Smashing Pumpkins
| artist = The Smashing Pumpkins
| date = April 17, 2010
| date = April 5, 2016
| venue = Space 15 Twenty
| venue = Beacon Theatre
| location = Los Angeles, CA, US
| location = New York, NY, US
| venue_type = Parking lot
| venue_type = Theater
| lat = 34.098807
| lat = 40.780472
| lng = -118.329214
| lng = -73.981139
| capacity = 250
| capacity = 2800
| attendance = 250
| lineup = Billy Corgan, Jimmy Chamberlin, Jeff Schroeder, Katie Cole, Sierra Swan, Liz Phair, Jack Bates
| lineup = Billy Corgan, Mike Byrne, Kerry Brown, Jeff Schroeder, Mark Tulin, Carina Round, Ginger Pooley
| bands = Liz Phair, The Smashing Pumpkins
| bands = Carina Round, The Smashing Pumpkins
| tour = In Plainsong
| tour = Rock 'n' Roll Party
| notes = Record Store Day 2010 concert; first SP show with [[Mike Byrne]] and final show with [[Ginger Pooley]]; live debut of "[[Soot and Stars]]"
| image = Corgan 2010-04-17.png
| caption = Screaming during "Bullet with Butterfly Wings"
}}
}}


'''April 17, 2010''' was [[w:Record_Store_Day|Record Store Day]] 2010 in Los Angeles. The first 250 people who pre-ordered the new ''[[Teargarden by Kaleidyscope - Vol. 1: Songs for a Sailor|Songs for a Sailor]]'' LP from [[w:Amoeba Music|Amoeba Music]] were given exclusive access to the concert. The show is notable for its diverse setlist, including the live debut of "[[Soot and Stars]]", the first performance of "[[Tristessa]]" in 16 years, the first "[[Stumbleine]]" in 14 years, and the last "[[G.L.O.W.]]" for nine years.
''[[In Plainsong tour|In Plainsong]]: An Acoustic-Electro Evening''.
 
It was drummer [[Mike Byrne]]'s first show with The Smashing Pumpkins (previously he has played with [[Billy Corgan]]'s side project, [[Spirits in the Sky]]). Bassist [[Ginger Pooley]] (who left the Pumpkins the previous month) made a guest appearance on "[[Bullet with Butterfly Wings]]", and this would be the last time she performed with the band. The song "[[Tallulah Lu]]", which also debuted at this show, was written by Corgan as a tribute to Ginger Pooley and a different friend back in Chicago, both of whom recently had given birth to a child named Tallulah.
 
The Electric Prunes bassist [[Mark Tulin]] (who appeared on the ''[[Songs for a Sailor]]'' EP) was also present, as well as long-time Smashing Pumpkins collaborator [[Kerry Brown]] who played congas and tambourine on "Astral Planes", "Cold Gin" tease and "Ava Adore". "Astral Planes" also featured backing vocals from British singer-songwriter [[Carina Round]].
 
Future bassist [[Nicole Fiorentino]] was present in the audience. By this time, she had already been performing with the band at rehearsals, however she hadn't officially joined the band yet.<ref>Comment by Nicole Fiorentino ([https://www.instagram.com/xocoleyf/ @xocoleyf]) on an [https://www.instagram.com/p/Ccdpn1EJvzh/ SPCodex Instagram post]</ref>
 
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== Setlist ==
== Setlist ==


=== Soundcheck ===
=== Pre-set ===
# {{live song|Spangled|soundcheck=1}}
# {{live song|Red Dirt}}
# {{live song|I've Been Waiting for You|cover=[[w:Neil Young|Neil Young]]|soundcheck=1}}
# {{live song|Being Beige}}
# {{live song|Tallulah Lu|soundcheck=1}}
# {{live song|My Life and Times}}
# {{live song|Ava Adore|soundcheck=1}}


=== Set ===
=== Set ===
# {{live song|A Stitch in Time|acoustic=1}}
# {{live song|Cardinal Rule}}
# {{live song|Stumbleine|acoustic=1}}
# {{live song|Stumbleine}}
# {{live song|A Song for a Son}}
# {{live song|Tonight, Tonight}}
# {{live song|Tristessa}}
# {{live song|The World's Fair}}
# {{live song|Astral Planes}}
# {{live song|Space Oddity|cover=[[w:David Bowie|David Bowie]]}}
# {{live song|Thirty-Three}}
# {{live song|Jesus, I|cover=[[w:|traditional]]}}
## {{live song|Mary Star of the Sea (song)|title=Mary Star of the Sea}}
# {{live song|Mayonaise}}
# {{live song|Soma}}
# {{live song|Rocket}}
# {{live song|Spaceboy}}
# {{live song|Today}}
# {{live song|Today}}
# {{live song|Soot and Stars}}
# {{live song|Whir}}
# {{live song|G.L.O.W.}}
# {{live song|Disarm}}
# {{live song|Widow Wake My Mind}}
# {{live song|Sorrows (In Blue)}}
# {{live song|Eye}}
# {{live song|Saturnine}}
# {{live song|Identify}}
# {{live song|1979}}
# {{live song|Stand Inside Your Love}}
# {{live song|Stand Inside Your Love}}
# {{live song|That's the Way (My Love Is)}}
# {{live song|Pinwheels}}
# {{live song|Bullet with Butterfly Wings}}
# {{live song|Lily (My One and Only)}}
# {{live song|Malibu|cover=[[w:Hole (band)|Hole]]}}
# {{live song|The Spaniards}}


=== Encore ===
=== Encore ===
# <li value=13>{{live song|Tallulah Lu|acoustic=1}}</li>
# {{live song|Happy Birthday|cover=[[w:Patty Hill|Patty Hill]] / [[w:Mildred J. Hill|Mildred J. Hill]]}}
# {{live song|Cold Gin|tease=1|cover=[[w:Kiss (band)|Kiss]]}}
# {{live song|Angie|cover=[[w:The Rolling Stones|The Rolling Stones]]}}
# {{live song|Ava Adore}}


== Notes ==
=== Notes ===


* "Astral Planes", "Cold Gin" tease and "Ava Adore" with [[Kerry Brown]] on congas and tambourine
* additional tour musicians: Katie Cole (bass, guitar, vocals) and Sierra Swan (keys, bass, vocals)
* "Astral Planes" with [[w:Carina_Round|Carina Round]] on backing vocals
* [[w:Liz Phair|Liz Phair]] guest appearance on "Thirty-Three" (vocals)
* "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" with [[Ginger Pooley]] on bass
* [[Jack Bates]] guest appearance on "Malibu" and "The Spaniards" (bass)
* First performance of "Tristessa" since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 1994-08-27|1994-08-27]]
* First performance of "Stumbleine" since [[The Smashing Pumpkins 1998-08-14|1998-08-14]]
* Last performance of "Soot and Stars" until [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2012-07-26|2012-07-26]]
* Last performance of "G.L.O.W." until [[The Smashing Pumpkins 2019-05-30|2019-05-30]]
* Soundcheck is out of order


== Banter ==
== Banter ==
{{banter|
''(incomplete due to lack of full show source)''


'''A Stitch in Time''' (Billy solo acoustic)
{{banter|1=
'''Cardinal Rule''' (Billy solo acoustic)
'''Stumbleine''' (Billy solo acoustic)
'''Stumbleine''' (Billy solo acoustic)
BC: Might as well introduce the band since we’re standing around.  On bass today, Mr. Mark Tulin.  Thank you, Mark.  Bass in the Pumpkins is sort of like [[w:Spinal_Tap_(band)#Drums,_percussion|drummer in Spinal Tap]].
> '''Tonight, Tonight''' (Billy solo acoustic)
Tulin: [unintelligible].
'''The World’s Fair''' (Billy solo acoustic)
BC: Alright, well, you’re the first male.
'''Space Oddity''' (Billy/Jeff acoustic)
Tulin: [unintelligible].
'''Thirty-three''' (Billy/Jeff acoustic w/Liz Phair)
BC: On guitar, Mr. Jeff Schroeder.  On drums, Mr. Mikey Byrne.
BC: Liz Phair, thank you.
'''A Song for a Son'''
'''Jesus, I / Mary Star of the Sea''' (Billy/Jeff acoustic)
'''Tristessa'''
BC: Thank you very much. So nice to see you, thank you.  So, here we are night two of our three night run, awesome. Nowhere else in the world are we playing three nights in a row but New York CityNot Los Angeles and not Chicago...but New York City. So we appreciate it very much, we thank you humbly. We’d now like to enter the part of the show where we play some music from a particular era of the band’s past. In the past, we’ve done the Adore eraBigger cheer on night two than night one for Adore.  Heh heh heh.  Last night, it was like “Adore?  Is that - is that by Pearl Jam?”  And uh, we’ve also done in the past the Mellon Collie era. But tonight we are featuring songs from the Siamese Dream eraSo please enjoy this interlude of music, we like to call it the Siamese suite.
BC: [cuts in]  Mr. [[Kerry Brown]].
'''Mayonaise''' (Billy/Jeff acoustic)
'''Astral Planes''' (with Kerry Brown & Carina Round)
'''Soma'''
BC: [cuts in] Gettin’ old.
'''Rocket'''
'''Today'''
'''Spaceboy'''
'''Soot and Stars'''
> '''Today'''
Guy in crowd: Fuck [[w:Coachella_Valley_Music_and_Arts_Festival|Coachella]]!
'''Whir'''
BC: ''(to Jeff)'' I think the [[w:Gorillaz|Gorillaz]] are bigger than the Smashing Pumpkins, that’s what I hear.  It’s a [[w:Thom Yorke|Thom Yorke]] solo?  Bigger than the Pumpkins.
'''Disarm''' (Billy solo keyboard)
Jeff: Gene told me that I couldn’t talk.
'''Sorrows in Blue'''
BC: What’s that?
> '''Eye'''
Jeff: Gene told me I couldn’t talk.
'''Saturnine'''
BC: [[w:Gene Simmons|Gene Simmons]]?
'''Identify'''
Jeff: Yeah!
BC: Thank you.
BC: No, he, heh, he confused you with [[James Iha|Iha]].
'''1979'''
Jeff: I know, but he told me not to talkHe really did, I’m not making that up.
BC: See...that should be the end of the show, right?
BC: It’s a true story.
Jeff: He really told me, he said, “I hope you don’t talk.
BC: And then he asked Kerry what his cock size was.
Jeff: And then he asked me if I’ve seen Billy seen naked too.
Kerry: ''(off mic and offstage)'' If it has a name.
BC: Huh?
A few people in crowd: If it had a name.
BC: Oh, if your cock had a name, right“Twitter” was his cock’s name.  Heh, Mister, oh, it’s Mr. TwitterAnyway....  ''(throwing picks into crowd)''
Tulin: Picks for everyone, yeah?
BC: That’s it, that’s what it’s all about.  Should I check my messages now or should I wait ‘til after the show?
Jeff: ''(off mic)'' After.
BC: Okay.  That’s the problem with having a love interest in another country.
Jeff: Oh yeah.
BC: Yeah, get some of that time zone....  ''(gesturing)''
Jeff: I wouldn’t know [unintelligible 2-3 words].
BC: You wouldn’t know?  You didn’t meet anybody on tour?, ''(makes a blowjob gesture)'' heh heh.
Jeff: Hahahaha!  No.
BC: Heh heh, haha, heh, alright, heh heh, here we go.  This is one called....
'''G.L.O.W.'''
'''Widow Wake My Mind'''
'''Stand Inside Your Love'''
'''Stand Inside Your Love'''
'''That’s the Way'''
'''Pinwheels'''
BC: [cuts in]  ''(to Ginger)'' You havin’ a flashback yet or...?  ''(to crowd)'' Alright, this is our last song, thank you very much for comin’. I’ll only tell you the special surprise if we get an encore, ''(shrugs)'', right? How’s that for...?
'''Lily'''
'''Bullet with Butterfly Wings''' (with Ginger Pooley)
BC: So we’ve reached the end of the show.  Heh heh heh.  Everybody knows I do what I’m told, that’s the way I am. Man says “Play, stop,” I just do whatever, it’s all good.
BC: Thank you very much, thank you Ginger.  Thank you guys, awesome, thank you!
Guy in crowd: We Only Come Out at Night, Billy!  Right here, Billy, second row, right there.
BC: You’re in the second row?  You’re in the second row, right? That - that’s, I can still kick you in the face from the second row. ''(Billy cracks up)'' Let’s just all relax.  I’m the zen version now.  Like to introduce the band to you before we run away.  On the drums, Mr. Jimmy Chamberlin.  Jimmy Chamberlin.  Jimmy wouldn’t kick you in the face, that’s why people like Jimmy.  Jimmy would give you a drum stick and...tell you a story.  On the guitar, the Shredder, Mr. Jeff Schroeder.  Jeff Schroeder.  On the bass guitar, our special guest, Mr. Jack Bates.  What band are you in?  Hahahaha.  On the keys, vocals and many other things, Ms. Sierra Swan.  Sierra Swan. And taking us tonight to Malibu, from the Celebrity Skin album by Hole, a song that I co-wrote in a younger year, Ms. Katie Cole.
'''Malibu''' (with Jack Bates on bass)
> '''The Spaniards''' (with Jack Bates on bass)
[encore break]
[encore break]
BC: This song requires silence, ''(points at ukulele)'', okay?  Heh, I got a small instrument right here.  I was in Hawaii recently and I met a great artist over there in [[w:Molokai|Molokai]], named Lono, who’s my friend, and he taught me some Hawaiian style stuff and so, I’ve been writing a few songs.  This is serious, this is not one of my jokes, heh heh, I swearAnd uh, Ginger just had a baby recently, whose name is Tallulah.  Very proud of Ginger, the baby’s beautiful, and I have a friend in Chicago who just had a baby named Tallulah--not mine.  And uh, so this song’s dedicated to both the babies, it’s called Baby.
BC: So before we finish up, thank you again, thank you, thank you, thank you.  ''And'', and...we have a birthday girl in the house tonightBirthday girl, wooSierra Swan, Sierra.
'''Tallulah Lu''' (Billy solo ukulele)
'''Happy Birthday''' (Billy and Katie sing on mic)
BC: [cuts in]  I found out that I ''do'' have a child.  Like to bring him up, come on up.  ''(an approx. 8-10 year old boy comes on stage with a wrestling mask on and stands on the drum riser)''  This is Jason.  Stand up there, Jason, so they can see you.  To protect his, uh...to protect his privacy, I’ve asked him to wear a mask. This is the first time anybody in public knows that I have a son.  Like to interview Jason now.  ''(Jason comes off the drum riser and stands close behind Billy, who’s kind of startled as he turns around)''  Oh!  My god, Jason, what are you doing?  No, stand up there so everyone can see you.  How you doin’, kid?
'''Angie'''
Jason: You’re the worst dad in the world!
BC: Thank you everybody, thank you NYC, thank you, we love you, thank you.
BC: What do you mean? I love you, you’re my son.
Jason: You...!  I played baseball today and you weren’t there the whole timeAnd I made a double play and you weren’t there to see it.
BC: But I watch your clips on YouTube, kid.  You’re my son and I’m proud of you!
Jason: Maybe, maybe not.
BC: Thank you, Jason.  ''(kid walks off stage)'' Jason Corgan, everybody.  I obviously didn’t name him Jason, I hate that name.  ''(Billy is trying to put the mic back on the stand and drops it)  (off mic)'' Fuckin’ A, man.
Girl in crowd: Bodies!
Different girl in crowd: You need to play 7 Shades of Black.
BC: Like in past eras, requests are not asked for.  ''(laughing off mic)'' That hasn’t changed.  ''(to Jeff)'' You know like with the [[w:Rolling Stones|Rolling Stones]] did the thing where people....
Jeff: ''(pointing towards the back of the venue)'' Oh wait wait, lookit, lookit....
BC: ''(re what Jeff is pointing at)''  Doug Goodman!  ''(he and Jeff laugh)''  Did the [[w:Los Angeles Dodgers|Dodgers]] win, Doug?  What is their record?  One and infinity, yes, I know.
Doug: ''(off mic from back of crowd)'' But they only lost by nine!
BC: ''(to Doug)'' If you--if you hadn’t been there, they would’ve lost by 11.  ''(to Jeff)'' You know when the Rolling Stones had a thing like you could vote for what songs you wanted to hear.
Jeff: That’s right right right right.
Guy in crowd: Rolling Stones suck!
Jeff: We should do that.
BC: Stones are alright.  No, can you imagine the songs that everyone would pick?
Jeff: Yeah, I could, wouldn’t be on any album.
BC: That’s right.  We’d be playing [[w:Kiss (band)|Kiss]] songs.
Jeff: Heh!  Hey, if that’s true, then let’s do it.
BC: Do it.
'''Cold Gin''' (tease - instrumental) (with Kerry Brown)
BC: ''(to Jeff)'' I thought you were getting the vocal!
Tulin: ''(singing)'' Come on!  Lookin’ out outta here.
Jeff: ''(gesturing at Tulin)'' But he doesn’t know [unintelligible], he doesn’t know that shit here.
BC: Mark doesn’t know the Kiss?
Jeff: No.
BC: Are you saying he’s old?  Is that what you’re trying to say?
Tulin: No, it’s just he has taste.
Jeff: He was ''before'' them.
Tulin: He was what?!
Jeff: I mean, that’s when you know you..., right?, he was before them.
BC: Thank you very much, Mark, for doing this gig, appreciate it a lot.
Tulin: Thank you very much.
BC: Teachin’ ‘em the ropes of the alternative bass style.
Tulin: That you are.
BC: Not that far from psychedelic grunge, right?
Tulin: Not...nope.
BC: Anyway, thanks a lot everybody, it’s been a really fun time....  [tape cuts]
'''Ava Adore''' (with Kerry Brown)
BC: We're trying to figure out a tour.  Until then, heroin and fireworks.
}}
}}


== Videos ==
== Photos and memorabilia ==
{{youtube|W3O1QjS8QaU|"Ava Adore" with [[Mark Tulin]] on bass|float=left}}
{{live show gallery|
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== References ==
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Revision as of 22:36, 21 December 2020

April 5, 2016 – New York, NY, US
Live performance by The Smashing Pumpkins
In Plainsong tour
DateApril 5, 2016
VenueBeacon Theatre
Coordinates40°46′50″N 73°58′52″W
LocationNew York, NY, US
Venue typeTheater
Capacity2,800
PersonnelBilly Corgan, Jimmy Chamberlin, Jeff Schroeder, Katie Cole, Sierra Swan, Liz Phair, Jack Bates
Order of bandsLiz Phair, The Smashing Pumpkins

In Plainsong: An Acoustic-Electro Evening.

Setlist

Pre-set

  1. "Red Dirt
  2. "Being Beige
  3. "My Life and Times

Set

  1. "Cardinal Rule
  2. "Stumbleine
  3. "Tonight, Tonight
  4. "The World's Fair
  5. "Space Oddity" [David Bowie
  6. "Thirty-Three
  7. "Jesus, I" [traditional
    1. "Mary Star of the Sea
  8. "Mayonaise
  9. "Soma
  10. "Rocket
  11. "Spaceboy
  12. "Today
  13. "Whir
  14. "Disarm
  15. "Sorrows (In Blue)
  16. "Eye
  17. "Saturnine
  18. "Identify
  19. "1979
  20. "Stand Inside Your Love
  21. "Pinwheels
  22. "Lily (My One and Only)
  23. "Malibu" [Hole
  24. "The Spaniards

Encore

  1. "Happy Birthday" [Patty Hill / Mildred J. Hill
  2. "Angie" [The Rolling Stones

Notes

  • additional tour musicians: Katie Cole (bass, guitar, vocals) and Sierra Swan (keys, bass, vocals)
  • Liz Phair guest appearance on "Thirty-Three" (vocals)
  • Jack Bates guest appearance on "Malibu" and "The Spaniards" (bass)

Banter

Cardinal Rule (Billy solo acoustic)
Stumbleine (Billy solo acoustic)
> Tonight, Tonight (Billy solo acoustic)
The World’s Fair (Billy solo acoustic)
Space Oddity (Billy/Jeff acoustic)
Thirty-three (Billy/Jeff acoustic w/Liz Phair)
BC: Liz Phair, thank you.
Jesus, I / Mary Star of the Sea (Billy/Jeff acoustic)
BC: Thank you very much. So nice to see you, thank you. So, here we are night two of our three night run, awesome. Nowhere else in the world are we playing three nights in a row but New York City. Not Los Angeles and not Chicago...but New York City. So we appreciate it very much, we thank you humbly. We’d now like to enter the part of the show where we play some music from a particular era of the band’s past. In the past, we’ve done the Adore era. Bigger cheer on night two than night one for Adore. Heh heh heh. Last night, it was like “Adore? Is that - is that by Pearl Jam?” And uh, we’ve also done in the past the Mellon Collie era. But tonight we are featuring songs from the Siamese Dream era. So please enjoy this interlude of music, we like to call it the Siamese suite.
Mayonaise (Billy/Jeff acoustic)
Soma
Rocket
Spaceboy
> Today
Whir
Disarm (Billy solo keyboard)
Sorrows in Blue
> Eye
Saturnine
Identify
BC: Thank you.
1979
BC: See...that should be the end of the show, right?
Stand Inside Your Love
Pinwheels
Lily
BC: So we’ve reached the end of the show. Heh heh heh. Everybody knows I do what I’m told, that’s the way I am. Man says “Play, stop,” I just do whatever, it’s all good.
Guy in crowd: We Only Come Out at Night, Billy! Right here, Billy, second row, right there.
BC: You’re in the second row? You’re in the second row, right? That - that’s, I can still kick you in the face from the second row. (Billy cracks up) Let’s just all relax. I’m the zen version now. Like to introduce the band to you before we run away. On the drums, Mr. Jimmy Chamberlin. Jimmy Chamberlin. Jimmy wouldn’t kick you in the face, that’s why people like Jimmy. Jimmy would give you a drum stick and...tell you a story. On the guitar, the Shredder, Mr. Jeff Schroeder. Jeff Schroeder. On the bass guitar, our special guest, Mr. Jack Bates. What band are you in? Hahahaha. On the keys, vocals and many other things, Ms. Sierra Swan. Sierra Swan. And taking us tonight to Malibu, from the Celebrity Skin album by Hole, a song that I co-wrote in a younger year, Ms. Katie Cole.
Malibu (with Jack Bates on bass)
> The Spaniards (with Jack Bates on bass)
[encore break]
BC: So before we finish up, thank you again, thank you, thank you, thank you. And, and...we have a birthday girl in the house tonight! Birthday girl, woo! Sierra Swan, Sierra.
Happy Birthday (Billy and Katie sing on mic)
Angie
BC: Thank you everybody, thank you NYC, thank you, we love you, thank you.

Photos and memorabilia