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! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Starchildren
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | The Smashing Pumpkins
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! align="left" | Date
! align="left" | Date
| 1994-06-18
| 1998-06-01
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|-
! align="left" | Venue
! align="left" | Venue
| Double Door
| Megland
|-
|-
! align="left" | Location
! align="left" | Location
| Chicago, IL, US
| Landgraaf, NL
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|-
! align="left" | Venue Type
! align="left" | Venue Type
| Club
| Field
|-
|-
! align="left" | Capacity
! align="left" | Capacity
| 473
| 60,000
|-
|-
! align="left" | Lineup
! align="left" | Notes
| Corgan, Iha, Chamberlin, Rew
| Pinkpop Festival. The band filled in for Pearl Jam.
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! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Surfaced Recordings
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | FM #1
|-
! align="left" | Source
| FM
|-
! align="left" | Format
| Unknown
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|-
! align="left" | Order of Bands
! align="left" | Equipment
| The Frogs, Starchildren
| Unknown
|-
! align="left" | Length
| 54m
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
|-
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| "Perfect Tears" commercial bootleg
|-
|-
! align="left" | Notes
! align="left" | Notes
| Set one is Billy guesting with The Frogs during their set. First performance of Here Is No Why. Only known performances of The Boy, Germans in Leather Pants, Delusions of Candor, A Night Like This, Santa Claus is Comin' to Town, Feel the Funny, War Jam, Cars, Junkie See, Numb, and Give Peace a Chance.
| Missing first two songs, Tonight Tonight has been moved to before Thru the Eyes of Ruby. ANA-?>CDR transfer also circulates.
|-
|-
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Surfaced Recordings
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | FM #2
|-
! align="left" | Source
| FM
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! align="left" | Format
| DAT
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| Unknown
|-
! align="left" | Length
| 48m
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! align="left" | Complete?
| No
|-
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| DDC-?(32k)>FLAC
|-
! align="left" | Notes
| Missing first two songs, Ava Adore and Tonight Tonight cut in.
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|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #1
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | FM #3
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! align="left" | Source
! align="left" | Source
| AUD
| FM
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|-
! align="left" | Format
! align="left" | Format
| ANA
| MD
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|-
! align="left" | Equipment
! align="left" | Equipment
| Realistic Tie-Clip Mic>Aiwa Walkman
| Unknown
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|-
! align="left" | Length
! align="left" | Length
| 61m
| 13m
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|-
! align="left" | Complete?
! align="left" | Complete?
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! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| ANA-M>CDR
| MD-M>CDR
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! align="left" | Live Music Archive
| [http://www.archive.org/details/tsp1994-06-18.shn 16-bit download]
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! align="left" | Notes
! align="left" | Notes
| Junkie See cut when taper had to hit the bathroom.
| First two songs only.
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AMT #1a
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | PRO #1a
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! align="left" | Source
! align="left" | Source
| AUD
| TV
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! align="left" | Format
! align="left" | Format
| VID
| VHS
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! align="left" | Equipment
! align="left" | Equipment
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! align="left" | Length
! align="left" | Length
| 5m
| 30m
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! align="left" | Complete?
! align="left" | Complete?
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! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| VHS-?>AVI
| VHS-1>DVD
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! align="left" | Notes
! align="left" | Notes
| I Only Play 4 Money only. Shot from barricade.
| Bullet with Butterfly Wings (cut), Shame (cut), interview, Ava Adore, Tear, and Tonight Tonight.
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! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Unsurfaced Recordings
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Unsurfaced Recordings
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AMT #1
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | FM #4
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! align="left" | Source
| FM
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! align="left" | Format
| ANA
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| Unknown
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! align="left" | Length
| 45m
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! align="left" | Complete?
| No
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #1
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! align="left" | Source
| AUD
|-
! align="left" | Format
| DAT
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| Unknown
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! align="left" | Length
| Unknown
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! align="left" | Complete?
| Unknown
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #2
|-
! align="left" | Source
| AUD
|-
! align="left" | Format
| MD
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! align="left" | Equipment
| M-17>MZ-R30
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! align="left" | Length
| Unknown
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! align="left" | Complete?
| Unknown
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #3
|-
|-
! align="left" | Source
! align="left" | Source
| AUD
| AUD
|-
! align="left" | Format
| ANA
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| Unknown
|-
! align="left" | Length
| Unknown
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! align="left" | Complete?
| Unknown
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | PRO #1
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! align="left" | Source
| PRO
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|-
! align="left" | Format
! align="left" | Format
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! align="left" | Equipment
! align="left" | Equipment
| Unknown
| Pro-Cams
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! align="left" | Length
! align="left" | Length
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! align="left" | Complete?
! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
| Yes
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! align="left" | Notes
| The Frogs' opening set was also taped. Shot from barricade.
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== Setlist ==
== Setlist ==
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Set One:
Set:
* I Only Play 4 Money [The Frogs]
* To Sheila
* Lord Grunge [The Frogs]
* Once Upon a Time
Set Two:
* Ava Adore
* A Night Like This [The Cure]
* Tear
* Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town [Coots/Gillespie]
* Thru the Eyes of Ruby
* Here Is No Why
* Perfect
* The Boy
* Tonight, Tonight
* Germans in Leather Pants
* (drum solo)
* Feel the Funny
** Bullet with Butterfly Wings
* War Jam
* Shame
* Cars [Numan]
* Summertime [Gershwin] (tease)
* Today (tease)
** Blank Page
* Junkie See
* Delusions of Candor
* Numb [U2]
* Give Peace a Chance [Lennon]
 
=== Notes ===
* I Only Play 4 Money and Lord Grunge performed by Billy guesting with the Frogs
* First performance of I Only Play 4 Money and Here is No Why
* Only performances of A Night Like This, Santa Clause is Comin' to Town, The Boy, Germans in Leather Pants, Feel the Funny, War Jam, Cars, Junkie See, Delusions of Candor, Numb, and Give Peace a Chance
* Jimmy Chamberlin on guitar for Cars
* Junkie See with unknown female vocalist
* Give Peace a Chance with Jimmy Frog on vocals


== Banter ==
== Banter ==
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
Corgan: We are Starchildren.<br>
(unknown)
Iha: We are the Starchildren, this song is by the Cure.<br>
<b>A Night Like This<br></b>
Corgan: Hi! This is Mickey Star, that's Joey Star, that's Phil star and Nancy star, that Barry, Jesus' mother.<br>
<b>Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town<br></b>
Corgan: Hi. As usual, the newspapers are wrong again. As was rumored, Catherine is not playing tonight.<br>
Iha: Damnit!<br>
Corgan: This is the third Starchildren gig, the first one was about three years ago, the second one was about two years ago. OK...here's a toast to all of you's.<br>
<b>Here Is No Why<br></b>
Iha: Oh yeah! Everyone in the fuckin' house, come on people, let's see some hands in the air! Come on! Hey! I can't hear you, hey! Ho! Kickin' at the Double Door, here we go again, the bump and grind, R Kelly, midwest flavor, you know what I'm saying? We got motherfuckin Jimmy Chamberlin on the motherfuckin drums, that dope ass beat you're kickin. Mark Rew, Mark Rew from Catherine on the motherfuckin bass. Billy C from the Pumpkins on the motherfuckin guitar. Let me hear you, I'm your MC tonight, it's hotter than hell, yes, Stanley is in the house tonight, come on, I can't hear you, come on, yeah that's right, the Double Door, here we are doin it again.<br>
Corgan: Hey, tell the ladies how much you love them.<br>
Iha: Yes! All ladies, you is fine. It's fuckin hotter than hell. Alright, we're gonna kick it into another dope jam in another second, hang on...I said hang on.<br>
Corgan: I'm mister wiggle. Sorry about that, sorta fucked up my synthesizer. We're going new wave man, fuck this rock shit. Alright, hit it Mr. Iha.<br>
Iha: That's right, new wave.<br>
<b>The Boy<br>
Germans in Leather Pants<br></b>
Iha: Well, we hope we're not disappointing anyone with the new wave set. It's the new direction, we feel that it's the future of music, let's all get into it, come on.<br>
<b>Feel the Funny<br>
War Jam<br></b>
Iha: Thank you so much. Again, we'll be getting back to the music in a second. That was our War Jam. And now to the forefront, Jimmy Chamberlin. Jimmy Chamberlin.<br>
Corgan: We need lots of light on stage so I can read these lyrics, OK?<br>
Iha: Can we have a white spotlight for Jimmy Chamberlin, please?<br>
Corgan: Yeah, can you put the spot on from the back for Jimmy please?<br>
Iha: So Jimmy, what up?<br>
Corgan: Show 'em what you can do Jim...and you just thought he was a drummer.<br>
Iha: He's a dessert topping!<br>
Corgan: He's so fucking funky man.<br>
Iha: And on the drums, Mark Rew...come on everybody!<br>
<b>Cars<br></b>
Iha: Thank you. And now to the forefront, our friend of the night, Barry.<br>
Corgan: Hey James, wanna play a Pumpkins song? Ah, fuck that shit. Alright, it pays the bills you know?<br>
<b>Today (tease)<br></b>
Corgan: Just kidding, I'm sorry. Actually, thank you all for being so patient with us. It's awfully night to not be an angry dysfunctional youth for an evening. Tonight I will be playing the role of a well-adjusted 27 year old, thank you very much. This is Mary Magdalene, please welcome her.<br>
<b>Junkie See<br></b>
Corgan: This is the uh, Starchildren theme. It encompasses the subject of clean living, don't eat pork, read Malcolm X books, pay all your parking tickets, worship at the temple of Daley, get all your cutdowns, you know that shit.<br>
<b>Delusions of Candor<br>
Numb</b><br>
Corgan: Alright, we'd like to do one more song. No encore, shit. Here are our five-feathered friends, the Frogs...where the fuck are you?<br>
Iha: Like to bring the Frogs out again...would like to bring the Frogs out again...<br>
Corgan: Alright, we need to get the Frogs out here. Frogs! Frogs!<br>
Iha: Just like Bad News Bears, let them play, come on.<br>
Corgan: Let them play! Here they come.<br>
Iha: Here they come, all the way from Milwaukee, amazing.<br>
Jimmy Frog: Gimme a beat.<br>
Corgan: Hey, where's your fuckin brother Dennis? Dennis you pussy, get up here?<br>
Iha: You know, me and Jimmy go way back, me and Jimmy go way back, we just wanna let you know. We used to play in the same band in junior high, the Hot Testers, that's why we've gotten together tonight.<br>
Jimmy Frog: Why don't you take off your shirt? Take your shirt off tonight for Chicago.<br>
Corgan: Yeah! Go on James, show us some tits.<br>
Iha: No, I will not bare myself.<br>
Corgan: You know, it's not a problem if he has three nipples.<br>
Iha: Oh, I thought we wouldn't bring that up again...alright<br>
Jimmy Frog: Everybody else take their shirt off here or I'm not playing.<br>
Iha: Does it make you a man to take your shirt off?<br>
Corgan: I too have three nipples.<br>
Iha: Here we go people, come on.<br>
<b>Give Peace a Chance</b>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>


== Photos & Memorabilia ==
== Photos And Memorabilia ==
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Revision as of 05:14, 16 August 2007

The Smashing Pumpkins
Date 1998-06-01
Venue Megland
Location Landgraaf, NL
Venue Type Field
Capacity 60,000
Notes Pinkpop Festival. The band filled in for Pearl Jam.
Surfaced Recordings
FM #1
Source FM
Format Unknown
Equipment Unknown
Length 54m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation "Perfect Tears" commercial bootleg
Notes Missing first two songs, Tonight Tonight has been moved to before Thru the Eyes of Ruby. ANA-?>CDR transfer also circulates.
FM #2
Source FM
Format DAT
Equipment Unknown
Length 48m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation DDC-?(32k)>FLAC
Notes Missing first two songs, Ava Adore and Tonight Tonight cut in.
FM #3
Source FM
Format MD
Equipment Unknown
Length 13m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation MD-M>CDR
Notes First two songs only.
PRO #1a
Source TV
Format VHS
Equipment Unknown
Length 30m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation VHS-1>DVD
Notes Bullet with Butterfly Wings (cut), Shame (cut), interview, Ava Adore, Tear, and Tonight Tonight.
Unsurfaced Recordings
FM #4
Source FM
Format ANA
Equipment Unknown
Length 45m
Complete? No
AUD #1
Source AUD
Format DAT
Equipment Unknown
Length Unknown
Complete? Unknown
AUD #2
Source AUD
Format MD
Equipment M-17>MZ-R30
Length Unknown
Complete? Unknown
AUD #3
Source AUD
Format ANA
Equipment Unknown
Length Unknown
Complete? Unknown
PRO #1
Source PRO
Format VID
Equipment Pro-Cams
Length ~65m
Complete? Yes

Setlist

Set:

  • To Sheila
  • Once Upon a Time
  • Ava Adore
  • Tear
  • Thru the Eyes of Ruby
  • Perfect
  • Tonight, Tonight
  • (drum solo)
    • Bullet with Butterfly Wings
  • Shame
  • Summertime [Gershwin] (tease)
    • Blank Page

Banter

(unknown)

Photos And Memorabilia

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